Isn't it time to send our offenders to foreign prisons?

[firecracker 10]

We can hardly escape a growing dilemna of a growing prison population coupled with a shortage of suitable building land for prisons. Any project to build a prison in any neighbourhood in this country is hotly contested at public inquiries. People want to live close to good amenities, good schools and good hospitals, but they don't want to live close to a prison. Nor do they like the fact that to lock up each prisoner costs an average of £30,000 to £40,000 per year depending on the source, and the widespread belief that 'prisons are too cushy' and that 'far from being cured of their criminal ways, they learn how to carry out their crimes better', and that 'being jailed or doing community service or getting an ASBO has become a badge of pride and gets them looked up to in the bent community they inhabit'. So what is the answer? I saw a piece that is almost seven years old suggesting that they ought to get sent to overseas prisons - that it would be cheaper, and provide a source of income for Third World countries by outsourcing our offenders to these countries.

 

Now it is doubtful that the typical yob would fancy life in a Nigerian, Tanzanian, Mexican, Chinese or Indian prison. And he might well think twice about beating up an innocent bystander if he thought it would get him slated for a stay in the Bangkok Hilton (and we're not talking about hotels here). Each week would seem like a year in such a place. There'd be no such things as playstations for convicts languishing in Lagos or LCD televisions for those in Lusaka. There'd be no visits from the rest of the good-for-nothings they hang around with (or at least used to hang around with) or from family. The guards would take no crap. Riots would be crushed without mercy, because you don't mess around with a snarling dog looking daggers at you or a pump action shotgun pointing at you. They'd have to eat what they're given, however inedible it looked. And at the end of their sentence, it is pretty doubtful they'd want another helping of the same. All this achieved for a fraction of the cost of keeping them here.

 

So is it time to alleviate our crime and prison problems by outsourcing?

[Halibut 12]

You're twisted. Christmas day and the noblest thing you can come up with is more vindictive conjecture about how you inflict pain on others.

[firecracker 10]

You're twisted. Christmas day and the noblest thing you can come up with is more vindictive conjecture about how you inflict pain on others.

So I take it your answer is more playstations and Sky Sports for the poor mites, and should anyone have the temerity to come up with something that would be guaranteed to solve a problem, they're twisted.

[MAMALOCHA! 10]

Isle of Arran

[Jason Bourne 11]

I don't know firecracker, it's a tough one, sometimes it's best to punish the criminals here.

 

I'll give you an example, the Jewish heiress of Tesco, Dame Shirley Porter, who, in typically Jewish style, defrauded British taxpayers out of tens of millions of pounds in the homes for votes scandal that rocked Westminster.

 

The Jewess runs off to Israel, pleads poverty, finds a few million shekels behind the sofa, throws it at the slavering goyim, who forgive the Jewess' sins and everything is OK. The Jewess is allowed back into the country and is lauded like the member of royalty she thinks she is.

 

Personally, I'd have liked to see the Jewess get a long jail sentence in a maximum security prison and let her rot there for a couple of decades.

 

What do you think?

 

Israel has no extradition treaty with any other country, so any Jew can commit any crime anywhere in any country and provided they abscond to Israel before they are charged, the Jew will get away with whatever crime the Jew committed.

 

Should Jews be able to get away with crimes like this, firecracker?

 

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[Halibut 12]

We can hardly escape a growing dilemna of a growing prison population coupled with a shortage of suitable building land for prisons. Any project to build a prison in any neighbourhood in this country is hotly contested at public inquiries. People want to live close to good amenities, good schools and good hospitals, but they don't want to live close to a prison. Nor do they like the fact that to lock up each prisoner costs an average of £30,000 to £40,000 per year depending on the source, and the widespread belief that 'prisons are too cushy' and that 'far from being cured of their criminal ways, they learn how to carry out their crimes better', and that 'being jailed or doing community service or getting an ASBO has become a badge of pride and gets them looked up to in the bent community they inhabit'. So what is the answer? I saw a piece that is almost seven years old suggesting that they ought to get sent to overseas prisons - that it would be cheaper, and provide a source of income for Third World countries by outsourcing our offenders to these countries.

 

Now it is doubtful that the typical yob would fancy life in a Nigerian, Tanzanian, Mexican, Chinese or Indian prison. And he might well think twice about beating up an innocent bystander if he thought it would get him slated for a stay in the Bangkok Hilton (and we're not talking about hotels here). Each week would seem like a year in such a place. There'd be no such things as playstations for convicts languishing in Lagos or LCD televisions for those in Lusaka. There'd be no visits from the rest of the good-for-nothings they hang around with (or at least used to hang around with) or from family. The guards would take no crap. Riots would be crushed without mercy, because you don't mess around with a snarling dog looking daggers at you or a pump action shotgun pointing at you. They'd have to eat what they're given, however inedible it looked. And at the end of their sentence, it is pretty doubtful they'd want another helping of the same. All this achieved for a fraction of the cost of keeping them here.

 

So is it time to alleviate our crime and prison problems by outsourcing?

 

You clearly don't care that maintaining good family links is crucial to the chances of keeping reoffending rates low.

 

You're just full of bile and pathetic anger.

[alex3659 11]

great idea , just one twist , why don't other countries send their prisoners here ?.

what makes anyone think we can still just ship our cons off ?.

[Halibut 12]

great idea , just one twist , why don't other countries send their prisoners here ?.

what makes anyone think we can still just ship our cons off ?.

 

Firecracker doesnt think in the generally accepted sense of the word......

[firecracker 10]

I don't know firecracker, it's a tough one, sometimes it's best to punish the criminals here.

 

I'll give you an example, the Jewish heiress of Tesco, Dame Shirley Porter, who, in typically Jewish style, defrauded British taxpayers out of tens of millions of pounds in the homes for votes scandal that rocked Westminster.

 

The Jewess runs off to Israel, pleads poverty, finds a few million shekels behind the sofa, throws it at the slavering goyim, who forgive the Jewess' sins and everything is OK. The Jewess is allowed back into the country and is lauded like the member of royalty she thinks she is.

 

Personally, I'd have liked to see the Jewess get a long jail sentence in a maximum security prison and let her rot there for a couple of decades.

 

What do you think?

 

Israel has no extradition treaty with any other country, so any Jew can commit any crime anywhere in any country and provided they abscond to Israel before they are charged, the Jew will get away with whatever crime the Jew committed.

 

Should Jews be able to get away with crimes like this, firecracker?

 

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She should not be able to get away with that. And not just because she's Jewish. She should have gone to prison simply for what she did.

 

And lastly the UK DOES have an extradition treaty with Israel.

[firecracker 10]

great idea , just one twist , why don't other countries send their prisoners here ?.

what makes anyone think we can still just ship our cons off ?.

We've simply run out of jail space and nobody wants a jail in their own back yard. Besides, they might think our jails are too soft.

[Halibut 12]

We've simply run out of jail space and nobody wants a jail in their own back yard. Besides, they might think our jails are too soft.

 

Because we imprison too many of the wrong kind of criminals.

[Jason Bourne 11]

And lastly the UK DOES have an extradition treaty with Israel.

 

No country has an extradition treaty with Israel.

 

That's why Jews flee there like rats when they've been caught dipping their hands in the till.

 

And that's why Israeli soliders get away with murdering British and American peace protestors but the Israelis are still allowed to hunt alleged Nazis 60 years on.

 

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