WELL DONE to Sheffield City Council for stopping the St Paul's Monster

[MK Ultra 10]

The ski village was an amazing project. Shame the then Labour council considered a rubbish tip to be better for the city. It’s a real shame it never got the go ahead and it wont now as the original owner sold it off.

 

Its funny how all these flat areas such as Manchester, Castleton and Milton Keynes can build fake hills for their indoor ski slopes, but Sheffield, being built on 7 hills, can’t figure out how to use its own assets to compete.

 

Wow, where's the new indoor ski slope in Castleton? I want to go this weekend.

 

They've not put a roof over Mam Tor have they...?

[Berberis 10]

Wow, where's the new indoor ski slope in Castleton? I want to go this weekend.

 

They've not put a roof over Mam Tor have they...?

 

Castleford. I always get those two mixed up

[Dan_Ashcroft 10]

I was just thinking. The plus side in the eventuality of the Turd Tower going ahead would how well it would actually blend in with the Ponderosa buildings over in Netherthorpe, giving the city a bit of continuity:

 

 

[LukeD 10]

i've just walked past the non-turd car park which has sprung up, illuminated in all it's horrendous glory for some reason.

 

I'm going to name it the sticklebrick.

[Ned Ludd 10]

Thank God for the Roebuck Tavern

A building of charm, pleasing to the human eye both in its' dimensions and general appearance. A cosy nook in an alien landscape, drawing in the wandering traveller as the Sirens of old.

So the city planners got one little part of The Heart of the City project right;)

[LukeD 10]

Thank God for the Roebuck Tavern

A building of charm, pleasing to the human eye both in its' dimensions and general appearance. A cosy nook in an alien landscape, drawing in the wandering traveller as the Sirens of old.

So the city planners got one little part of The Heart of the City project right;)

 

hahah yeah, they simply left part of it alone!

[Unisol 12]

Good news ........

 

Just noticed on Skyscrapercity that the revised cladding has today been approved.

 

Things could really get moving now (as well as securing the 300 jobs)

 

[Joe Totale 10]

Good news ........

 

Just noticed on Skyscrapercity that the revised cladding has today been approved.

 

Things could really get moving now (as well as securing the 300 jobs)

 

Thank goodness for that!

 

Just hope the developers dont try to incorporate any other cost cutting measures.

 

Lets hope they push ahead now, and get it finished asap.

[Dan_Ashcroft 10]

Good news ........

 

Just noticed on Skyscrapercity that the revised cladding has today been approved.

 

Things could really get moving now (as well as securing the 300 jobs)

 

 

Looks like its a a bit of a fudge (no pun intended) to me. It will still have turdy cladding but wont be quite as turdy.

[Dan_Ashcroft 10]

Here's the full detail anyway:

 

1.1 At their meeting on 12 November 2008 Members resolved that the amendments to the principal elevations of the 32 storey residential tower at St Paul’s Place/Arundel Gate as detailed in the report now submitted, be rejected. A copy of the report of the Director of Development Services in respect of the amendments proposed is appended hereto.

 

1.2 The developer has since undertaken further work on the proposed amendments to meet the concerns of Members. As a result substantial improvements have been identified and the Council, as Local Planning Authority, have been formally requested to consider the new proposals as minor amendments to the approved elevations.

 

2. THE CHANGES MADE TO THE ELEVATIONS SINCE THEY WERE LAST CONSIDERED

 

2.1 Taking on board comments made by Members at the meeting on the 12 November 2008, the developer has concentrated on reviewing what, if any, improvements could be made to the windows introduced since the original application was approved. Members had been particularly critical in respect of the introduction of windows which broke up the elegant rhythm of glass panels extending from floor to ceiling along the elevation.

 

2.2 The new proposals involve the re-introduction of full floor to ceiling panels of glass instead of the smaller windows previously proposed.

 

2.3 In the lounges there will now be sliding doors and in bedrooms the panels will be hinged at the bottom opening inwards at the top for ventilation.

 

2.4 In effect the opening glass now has the same appearance as shown on the approved plans.

 

 

2.5 The developer has also reviewed the extent of the opaque glass i.e. the black back painted glass, introduced due to the need to fulfil the energy conservation demands of Building Regulations. However, this has only confirmed that it is not possible to reduce the number of opaque glass panes previously shown.

 

3. THE AMENDMENTS NOW REQUESTED

 

3.1 The appended report explains why each change is intended and the evolution of the current design in respect of the element involved where appropriate.

 

3.2 The proposed elevations differ from those approved in the following respects:

 

a) Pressed anodised panels in lieu of metal panels with Expamet mesh.

 

These are no larger than the approved metal panels and are identical in the colour and metallic lustre of their finish. There has been no increase in the quantity of metal panels or change in their location.

 

b) Back painted glass panels in lieu of clear glass.

 

It has not proved technically possible to reduce the number of these beyond the reduction obtained before the previous meeting. All the glass to the lowest five floors on the Arundel Gate elevation is clear, because here proximity to the viewer and the angle of view obtained means that the opaque panels contrast most with clear glass.

 

On the rest of the elevation there are 6 opaque glass panels out of a total of 24 glass panels on each floor.

 

c) The deletion of the feature mast from the south side of the Arundel Gate elevation.

 

 

4. CONCLUSION

 

4.1 The return to the full floor to ceiling proportion of all the glass panels to the main elevations is a very significant improvement on what was previously proposed. The clear glass areas, which make up the majority of the elevations, will now reflect the approved elevations.

 

4.2 The first amendment still requested is the introduction of back painted glass to the upper floors in respect of 6 panels out of a total of 24 glass panels at each level. Black has been chosen because it best emulates an unlit clear glass panel. The lowest floors on Arundel Gate will only be glazed with clear glass as the contrast between the opaque panels and clear glass becomes increasingly less obvious with height. It is considered that the opaque glass will not significantly detract from the appearance of the elevations. It should be noted that back painted glass is not an unusual material and many recently constructed buildings in the City employ it.

 

4.3 The pressed anodised panels are the same size and colour as the metal panels on the approved elevation drawings and they are in the same locations. The only difference between them and the approved panels is the removal of the heavy mesh which gave additional relief and variation to their surface.

 

4.4 The deletion of the feature spike has not previously been raised as an issue by Members.

 

4.5 The amendments now proposed will no longer upset the simple and elegant repetition of vertical glass panels interspaced by metal panels of the same size that was fundamental to the approved design.

 

4.6 In deleting the smaller windows and thereby returning to the original larger openings, the developer has rectified the main area of concern. The building should now appear, for the most part, as originally intended.

 

5. RECOMMENDATION

 

5.1 It is recommended that the amendments be approved.

[forumer 10]

Looks to me like the Council held out and got the best possible design, pretty close to the original.

[TESTPASS 10]

Good on all you council members involved in this.

 

ok so we have the student games and the airport ect, but I think on this one you got it right and with the full support of many a Sheffielder that will have to endure this beast of a building for years to come. well done .