Dave59 Â Â 11 #61 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi all. Regarding Percy Sillito. He was the Chief Constable brought in to replace the previous Chief Lt Col John Hall Dalwood. Sillito ended up taking all the credit for Hall Dalwoods work. The most notable Sillito myth was that he formed the Flying Squad, this had in fact been operating for exactly one year to the day when he took office. Hall Dalwood was unpopular with the Police Authority hence this situatiion arising in the first place. Â Regards Dave 59 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bob England   11 #62 Posted February 19, 2014 As a teenager in the forties, I was told that Percy Sillito boasted that he would make Sheffield so law abiding that he would be able to hang his gold watch under the white bridge and find it there next morning. At the end of his tenure, he did that and story goes on that next morning watch was gone. I went to the Sacred Heart school with Margaret Mooney and Jimmy Mooney. They both had red hair and the family face. In 1967, in Los Angeles California, I met a young lady with both Mooney face and hair. She said she was from Sheffield and that she knew nothing of the Mooney Gang history.  That story is a bit of an urban myth, it appears to originate from the five points area of New York where the then Police Commissioner (totally corrupt) made the same boast.  It is referenced in the film Gangs of New York by Martin Scorcese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
biggsy   10 #63 Posted February 21, 2014 As a teenager in the forties, I was told that Percy Sillito boasted that he would make Sheffield so law abiding that he would be able to hang his gold watch under the white bridge and find it there next morning. At the end of his tenure, he did that and story goes on that next morning watch was gone. I went to the Sacred Heart school with Margaret Mooney and Jimmy Mooney. They both had red hair and the family face. In 1967, in Los Angeles California, I met a young lady with both Mooney face and hair. She said she was from Sheffield and that she knew nothing of the Mooney Gang history.  Hi Brian  There was a Margaret Mooney with a round face and curly ginger hair that lived next to my grandma on Dagnam road just off Eastern avenue, I think this was around the mid 60s..  I think that the girl i'm thinking of may have been older than me (it was over 45 years ago!!) so i'm not sure if it was the same lass!  Would you know whether the girl you went to school with ever lived at the Manor top??   Cheers, Biggsy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
GLASGOWOODS   10 #64 Posted February 22, 2014 Hmmm It wouldn't do to rub Fanny up the wrong way   I think the coppers name was spelt Shillito, he was a big Scotsman apparently and didn't fanny about with the gangsters, he (and his officers) used to dish some knuckle out   Biggsy  Shillito I believe was brought down from Glasgow after sorting out the gangs up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cuttsie   1,090 #65 Posted February 22, 2014 Hi Brian There was a Margaret Mooney with a round face and curly ginger hair that lived next to my grandma on Dagnam road just off Eastern avenue, I think this was around the mid 60s..  I think that the girl i'm thinking of may have been older than me (it was over 45 years ago!!) so i'm not sure if it was the same lass!  Would you know whether the girl you went to school with ever lived at the Manor top??   Cheers, Biggsy We had a Mooney in our year at Prince Edwards about 1956 ish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
darra   10 #66 Posted February 22, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN_0uPa15kI  worth a watch Sheffield gangs then and now Sillitoe around 25 minutes in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
scottyblade   10 #67 Posted October 16, 2014 I think Gladys Lishman was my Grandmothers sister, my mums auntie was Gladys....Bill Lishman was a relative my grandmother was called Elsie Lishman.  Elsie was my mothers sister,my mum was Vera Scott (formerly Lishman),sadly lost Vera a few years ago now and would be nice to try and find out if I have any relatives still living in the area. I believe I'm the youngest (52) of the Lishmans (Scott) next generation and you must be the generation after seeing as Elsie (my aunt)was your grandmother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alan p   15 #68 Posted October 17, 2014 I knew Joe and Mary Mooney we grew up down the Park District they were brother and sister, they moved to the Arbourthorne. I was only talking about them today,I last saw them when I was around 17 I'm 64 now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
marie wilson   0 #69 Posted October 20, 2019 Amos had one daughter to his wife Eliza in 1923. Her name was Pauline and she passed away 2017 age 93. I am one of her 2 daughters, Marie. My sister, his other grandaughter is Lynda. He and my grandmother divorced when mum was very young. He did live with Gladys but to my knowledge they never married . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Callie48   0 #70 Posted November 9, 2019 I was told to look up Amos Stuart on the Sheffield Forum and felt I should offer the information I have on Amos. Amos was my mum's uncle.  AMOS STUART born 1874                                                                                                                                                               1881 Census                                                                                                                 Amos Stuart aged 7 lived with his parents, William and Sarah, at 14 Cheap Street, Leeds             Census  1891                                                                                                                                      Amos aged 17 lived with his parents at 4 Oaks Green Attercliffe, Sheffield. My grandmother, Annie (my mother’s mother), was aged 4 at the time. Amos and Annie were siblings.                                                                                                                                                                  1901 Census                                                                                                                                                 Amos now aged 27, still living with his parents, at 42 Trinity Street.                                       In this same census Hannah Sedgwick, aged 22, was a visitor along with her children, Wilfred aged 3 and Elizabeth aged 1, from her previous husband. Amos and Hannah had more children together but I have no further information. Amos died aged 76 at the Northern General Hospital and was buried at City Road Cemetery on the 22nd Dec 1949. Grave # 14831 Section NN                                                                                                                                       Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Runningman   148 #71 Posted November 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Callie48 said: I was told to look up Amos Stuart on the Sheffield Forum and felt I should offer the information I have on Amos. Amos was my mum's uncle.  AMOS STUART born 1874                                                                                                                                                               1881 Census                                                                                                                 Amos Stuart aged 7 lived with his parents, William and Sarah, at 14 Cheap Street, Leeds             Census  1891                                                                                                                                      Amos aged 17 lived with his parents at 4 Oaks Green Attercliffe, Sheffield. My grandmother, Annie (my mother’s mother), was aged 4 at the time. Amos and Annie were siblings.                                                                                                                                                                  1901 Census                                                                                                                                                 Amos now aged 27, still living with his parents, at 42 Trinity Street.                                       In this same census Hannah Sedgwick, aged 22, was a visitor along with her children, Wilfred aged 3 and Elizabeth aged 1, from her previous husband. Amos and Hannah had more children together but I have no further information. Amos died aged 76 at the Northern General Hospital and was buried at City Road Cemetery on the 22nd Dec 1949. Grave # 14831 Section NN                                                                                                                                       Hi Callie48 and welcome to the Sheffield Forum  RS in Sheffield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
madison46012   0 #72 Posted January 27, 2020 hi yes i have information stuart was infact married to gladys lishman i know this because her brother is my great grandad so i am a relative of amos stuart please reply for any further information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...