Meter Man   15 #157 Posted August 22, 2008 the perception of what a dog should look like by the likes of crufts& the kc have ruined the bull dog it now resembles a frog it cant breath & can hardley walk  not true, we have now got bulldogs doing agilaty, you are living in the past Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pk014b7161 Â Â 11 #158 Posted August 22, 2008 the english/british bull dog?or the olde bulldogge type bred by dave leavitt? my nieghbour was looking after his son in laws english bull dog it struggled to get up the kitchen steps (2)so any improvement on this would be a start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Meter Man   15 #159 Posted August 22, 2008 a pure bred bulldog doesnt have any prefix mine are purebred and can run jump & just about keep up with my staffs,i`m not saying there perfect but most breeds have faults but that program didn`t show or tell you the work good breeders are doing now to put thinks right & that the k.c.& the breeders have been working together to put things right . lets hope the program hasn`t done to much damage & that not too many dogs are abandend because they have been classed as mutant , it is already becomeing a throw away society re dogs , would the thoughts of some people have been the same if it was humans we where talking about ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pk014b7161 Â Â 11 #160 Posted August 22, 2008 i hate it when a dog becomes fashionable that usually spells trouble for the breed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Strix   11 #161 Posted August 22, 2008 i hate it when a dog becomes fashionable that usually spells trouble for the breedI wish you were wrong  whenever anybody stops us to make a fuss of our Beagle I do exactly as his breeder did when I met her, and tell them all the reasons not to own one!  The number of staffies advertised for sale here when they're only months old is heart breaking - and the number picked up by the dog warden when people have got fed up and kicked them out.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mathom   10 #162 Posted August 22, 2008 Dad had a rescued GSP that was found starving to death. We couldn't work out why someone had dumped a rare pedigree dog but the vet told him it was probably because he was shorter than a male should be for that breed. Madness. He had a beautiful coat (perfectly ticked) and a perfect temperament, and all the pointing instincts. But after investigation, turned out he had been sold by a breeder cheap to some scumbag as he wasn't tall enough and the scrote who bought him just dumped him to die because they couldn't handle such a lively dog.  Then you get the 'breeding farms'. There were a few where I grew up and they aren't nice.  You're starting to get this with cats now, too. Some of the modern Persians can barely breathe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DaFoot   10 #163 Posted August 22, 2008 *threads merged* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
estweyn   10 #164 Posted August 22, 2008 If you go onto the BBC website there is a place to comment on the show so it may be worth putting points forward that have been brought up on here, ie the KC should be doing more to make breeders more responsible for screening breeding stock etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WallBuilder   10 #165 Posted August 22, 2008 I recieved a response from DEFRA, here it is  CiAgPHNwYW4gc3R5bGU9IkZPTlQtU0laRTogMTJwdDsgRk9OVC1GQU1JTFk6IEFyaWFsIj4KICAg IDxwPkRlYXIgUm95PGJyIC8+PGJyIC8+VGhhbmsgeW91IGZvciB5b3VyIGVtYWlsIG9mIDIwIEF1 Z3VzdC48YnIgLz48YnIgLz5UaGUgQnJlZWRpbmcgYW5kIFNhbGUgb2YgRG9ncyAoV2VsZmFyZSkg QWN0IDE5OTksIHdoaWNoIGFtZW5kZWQgYW5kIGV4dGVuZGVkIHRoZSBwcm92aXNpb25zIG9mIHRo ZSBCcmVlZGluZyBvZiBEb2dzIEFjdCAxOTczIGFuZCB0aGUgQnJlZWRpbmcgb2YgRG9ncyBBY3Qg MTk5MSwgYWxyZWFkeSBwcm92aWRlcyBwcm90ZWN0aW9uIGZvciBkb2dzIHVzZWQgaW4gYnJlZWRp bmcgZXN0YWJsaXNobWVudHMuIFVuZGVyIHRoaXMgbGVnaXNsYXRpb24sIGFueSBwZXJzb24gd2hv IGtlZXBzIGEgYnJlZWRpbmcgZXN0YWJsaXNobWVudCBmb3IgZG9ncyBhdCBhbnkgcHJlbWlzZXMg YW5kIGNhcnJpZXMgb24gYXQgdGhvc2UgcHJlbWlzZXMgYSBidXNpbmVzcyBvZiBicmVlZGluZyBk b2dzIGZvciBzYWxlIG11c3Qgb2J0YWluIGEgbGljZW5jZSBmcm9tIHRoZSBsb2NhbCBhdXRob3Jp dHkuPC9wPgogICAgPHA+VGhlIEFuaW1hbCBXZWxmYXJlIEFjdCAyMDA2IHBsYWNlcyBvbiB0aG9z ZSB3aG8gb3duIG9yIGFyZSByZXNwb25zaWJsZSBmb3IgYW5pbWFscyBhIGR1dHkgdG8gZW5zdXJl IHRoZWlyIGFuaW1hbHMnIHdlbGZhcmUuICAgVGhpcyBpbmNsdWRlcyBvd25lcnMgYW5kIGtlZXBl cnMgb2YgZG9nIGJyZWVkaW5nIGVzdGFibGlzaG1lbnRzLjwvcD4KICAgIDxwPkRlZnJhIHRha2Ug YWxsIG1hdHRlcnMgb2YgYW5pbWFsIHdlbGZhcmUgdmVyeSBzZXJpb3VzbHksIGhvd2V2ZXIgdGhl cmUgYXJlIG5vIHNwZWNpZmljIGxlZ2lzbGF0aW9ucyBvbiB3aGljaCBkb2dzIGNhbiBhbmQgY2Fu bm90IGJlIGJyZWQgdG9nZXRoZXIuIElmIHlvdSBoYXZlIGFueSBxdWVyaWVzIGFib3V0IGEgcGFy dGljdWxhciBicmVlZCBvZiBkb2cgSSBzdWdnZXN0IGNvbnRhY3RpbmcgdGhlIEtlbm5lbCBDbHVi IGRpcmVjdGx5IHdpdGggeW91ciBjb25jZXJucy48L3A+CiAgICA8cCBjbGFzcz0iTXNvTm9ybWFs IiBzdHlsZT0iVEVYVC1BTElHTjoganVzdGlmeSI+CiAgICAgIDxzcGFuIHN0eWxlPSJDT0xPUjog YmxhY2s7IG1zby1iaWRpLWZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OiBBcmlhbCI+SSBob3BlIHRoaXMgaXMgaGVscGZ1 bC48L3NwYW4+CiAgICA8L3A+CiAgICA8ZGl2IGNsYXNzPSJNc29Ob3JtYWwiIHN0eWxlPSJURVhU LUFMSUdOOiBqdXN0aWZ5Ij5Zb3VycyBzaW5jZXJlbHksPGJyIC8+PGJyIC8+PHNwYW4gc3R5bGU9 IkZPTlQtU0laRTogMTJwdDsgRk9OVC1GQU1JTFk6IEFyaWFsOyBtc28tYmlkaS1mb250LWZhbWls eTogJ1RpbWVzIE5ldyBSb21hbic7IG1zby1mYXJlYXN0LWZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OiAnVGltZXMgTmV3 IFJvbWFuJzsgbXNvLWFuc2ktbGFuZ3VhZ2U6IEVOLUdCOyBtc28tZmFyZWFzdC1sYW5ndWFnZTog RU4tVVM7IG1zby1iaWRpLWxhbmd1YWdlOiBBUi1TQSI+Q3VzdG9tZXIgQ29udGFjdCBVbml0PC9z cGFuPjxkaXY+PHN0cm9uZz5EZWZyYTwvc3Ryb25nPjwvZGl2PjwvZGl2PgogIDwvc3Bhbj4KCjxw cmU+RGVwYXJ0bWVudCBmb3IgRW52aXJvbm1lbnQsIEZvb2QgYW5kIFJ1cmFsIEFmZmFpcnMgKERl ZnJhKQoKVGhpcyBlbWFpbCBhbmQgYW55IGF0dGFjaG1lbnRzIGlzIGludGVuZGVkIGZvciB0aGUg bmFtZWQgcmVjaXBpZW50IG9ubHkuCklmIHlvdSBoYXZlIHJlY2VpdmVkIGl0IGluIGVycm9yIHlv dSBoYXZlIG5vIGF1dGhvcml0eSB0byB1c2UsIGRpc2Nsb3NlLApzdG9yZSBvciBjb3B5IGFueSBv ZiBpdHMgY29udGVudHMgYW5kIHlvdSBzaG91bGQgZGVzdHJveSBpdCBhbmQgaW5mb3JtCnRoZSBz ZW5kZXIuCldoaWxzdCB0aGlzIGVtYWlsIGFuZCBhc3NvY2lhdGVkIGF0dGFjaG1lbnRzIHdpbGwg aGF2ZSBiZWVuIGNoZWNrZWQKZm9yIGtub3duIHZpcnVzZXMgd2hpbHN0IHdpdGhpbiBEZWZyYSBz eXN0ZW1zIHdlIGNhbiBhY2NlcHQgbm8KcmVzcG9uc2liaWxpdHkgb25jZSBpdCBoYXMgbGVmdCBv dXIgc3lzdGVtcy4KQ29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMgb24gRGVmcmEncyBjb21wdXRlciBzeXN0ZW1zIG1h eSBiZSBtb25pdG9yZWQgYW5kL29yCnJlY29yZGVkIHRvIHNlY3VyZSB0aGUgZWZmZWN0aXZlIG9w ZXJhdGlvbiBvZiB0aGUgc3lzdGVtIGFuZCBmb3Igb3RoZXIKbGF3ZnVsIHB1cnBvc2VzLgo8L3By ZT4=  Do yiou think my e-mail facility has gone ga -ga? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #166 Posted August 22, 2008 No, I seriously doubt your email link is at fault.  It makes as much sense as most governmental department missives, Wallbuilder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Moedelawn   10 #167 Posted August 22, 2008 can any one belive what the rhodesian ridgeback bredders were saying???????/ Makes you wonder if the breeder's are inbred doesn't it !!!! but is that fair as it's not the breeder's who set out the breed standard , it's the kennel club, I think there's nothing people won't do with animal's to line their own pocket's , ban showing , scrap the breed standard , stick to obedience, agility , flyball etc, much more fun for the dog and owner--( like that would ever happen ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Strix   11 #168 Posted August 23, 2008 I wouldn't like to see Brude's face if you tell him dog shows aren't going to exist anymore!  He loves them!  You should see him when he knows he's showing to his best - the extreme tip of his tail wags almost imperceptibly  He knows better than I do what's going on in a ring, so when we've been at a match night and I've been chatting, he's straining on his lead to get back into the ring when he's due back up - and I've not figured out how he does that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...