No help with getting housing because I work part time- what can I do now?

[mr_busdriver 10]

The benefits system was established in order to help those in genuine need. Unfortunately, it's been hijacked by the following;

1. The lazy

2. Millions of underskilled immigrants who add zero to the economy, and who breed like rabbits

3. Millions of underskilled kids who add zero to the economy, and who breed like rabbits

4. Millions of people who walk up and down Fargate and any town centre in this country, with a stick, in an attempt to justify their Invalidity Benefit

5. Kids with kids. Next time your in town, count the number of kids, pushing prams. Vicious circle. The underclass in this country, in general, are breeding at a far faster rate than the educated and ambitious.

 

This country has a major problem on the horizon.

 

 

 

Whoa.. must pull you up there

 

Point 3 - Underskilled kids, whos fault is that? the government spend millions on training schemes that simply will not prepare kids for the real world of work. Most schemes are simply a means of hiding the real unemployment figures, and this has been going on since the days of YTS

 

 

Point 4 - yes, would tend to agree with you, I did post this on another thread aboiut the amount of young people who amble around town in the week, in designer gear, some driving fast cars with BOOMCHI BOOMCHI music going off ----- Now I'm not saying as a youth we didn't have the BOOMCHI BOOMCHI cars, however many of my friends (me included) we doing a days work by the time we were 16............ So the BOOMCHI stuff only tended to happen in the evening and weekend

 

Anyone remember SCR/Harcore FM and Mark 2 Escorts? early 90s

 

I just wonder where they get all the money from to look smart and not work

[Titanic99 10]

well I have paid into the system for years so whats wrong with expecting a bit back when i need it.

 

If you've been paying money in for years then you should be entitled to Contribution Based JSA, if you haven't and you have income which is below the minimum amounts to live on then you should be getting Income Based JSA (this includes Partners income and Capital you hold will be taken into account).

 

Are you sure that the reason for no JSA Contribution Based is not that you've received Payment in Lieu of your notice as that would stop you from claiming?

[Titanic99 10]

The benefits system was established in order to help those in genuine need. Unfortunately, it's been hijacked by the following;

1. The lazy

2. Millions of underskilled immigrants who add zero to the economy, and who breed like rabbits

3. Millions of underskilled kids who add zero to the economy, and who breed like rabbits

4. Millions of people who walk up and down Fargate and any town centre in this country, with a stick, in an attempt to justify their Invalidity Benefit

5. Kids with kids. Next time your in town, count the number of kids, pushing prams. Vicious circle. The underclass in this country, in general, are breeding at a far faster rate than the educated and ambitious.

 

This country has a major problem on the horizon.

 

A few facts that might change your persective on this topic:

 

1) To claim JSA you've got to be actively seeking work, if someone isn't doing this then they are contravening their agreement and they should have their JSA Sanctioned/Stopped. If this isn't happening then it is the fault of Jobcentre Plus

 

2) Way off the mark with this one- First of all we only have around 820,000 claiming Jobseekers Allowance which immediately means there aren't millions of immigrants claiming-Secondly, research published by the Daily Mail shows that Eastern European immigrants are significantly less likely to claim Benefits than the Indegenous Population are

 

4) Those people on Incapacity Benefit will have had two medical assessments that have indicated they are unfit for work

 

On points 3 and 5 I await the evidence to support your perception.

[Gunner 11]

A few facts that might change your persective on this topic:

 

1) To claim JSA you've got to be actively seeking work, if someone isn't doing this then they are contravening their agreement and they should have their JSA Sanctioned/Stopped. If this isn't happening then it is the fault of Jobcentre Plus

 

2) Way off the remark with this one- First of all we only have around 820,000 claiming Jobseekers Allowance which immediately means there aren't millions of immigrants claiming-Secondly, research published by the Daily Mail shows that Eastern European immigrants are significantly less likely to claim Benefits than the Indegenous Population are

 

4) Those people on Incapacity Benefit will have had two medical assessments that have indicated they are unfit for work

 

On points 3 and 5 I await the evidence to support your perception.

 

I know quite a lot of people that are not only claiming incapacity Benefits, But also the full amount of DLA. Many that are on lower and middle class DLA. Nothing wrong with them at all. Some of these are between 17 and 23 years old and have been on benefits since leaving school. This says that the system is wrong. Many get this benefit claiming they suffer ADHD from childhood. Many for depression. Even Alcoholics and drug addicts can claim. There are many that claim for depression. I could go on and on with this the biggest scam in the country. The whole benefits system needs to be looked into. When I see a young man running around in a car provided by the Mobility Allowance's I get angry knowing he is a fit man. Also in many cases working on the fiddle. Playing football on the weekends. I see these skivers excuses for civilised people. The kids they breed will end up the same. Then people that are honest and need help are the one's that suffer. This could be a very long and very emotive subject. So I will have a rest LOL

[SHsheff 10]

When I see a young man running around in a car provided by the Mobility Allowance's I get angry knowing he is a fit man. Also in many cases working on the fiddle. Playing football on the weekends. LOL

 

So, you've reported them all, then?

[Titanic99 10]

I know quite a lot of people that are not only claiming incapacity Benefits, But also the full amount of DLA. Many that are on lower and middle class DLA. Nothing wrong with them at all. Some of these are between 17 and 23 years old and have been on benefits since leaving school. This says that the system is wrong. Many get this benefit claiming they suffer ADHD from childhood. Many for depression. Even Alcoholics and drug addicts can claim. There are many that claim for depression. I could go on and on with this the biggest scam in the country. The whole benefits system needs to be looked into. When I see a young man running around in a car provided by the Mobility Allowance's I get angry knowing he is a fit man. Also in many cases working on the fiddle. Playing football on the weekends. I see these skivers excuses for civilised people. The kids they breed will end up the same. Then people that are honest and need help are the one's that suffer. This could be a very long and very emotive subject. So I will have a rest LOL

 

I quite agree that this is an emotive subject, I would suggest you report the people in the cases you refer to.

 

In general this area does need reforming and will be from October, as to what to replace it with I have no idea.

[medusa 16]

Any chance that the topic can get back onto the original one of not being able to get any assistance with finding housing because of working please?

 

This is NOT going to turn into yet another topic that expects everyone with a disability to abase themselves to everyone who thinks that it is their God-given duty to judge whether a person is able bodied or not.

 

There will be no more warnings on this one- we've had 2 long threads about this topic removed already this week.

[ukstudent 10]

£900 a month?

 

I'm positive you can find something alot cheaper than that

[medusa 16]

The OP didn't say that it was £900 a month- what they said was £900 in the first month, which is the first month's rent in advance and a bond.

 

It makes no difference if the ongoing cost is reasonable if you can't afford to get there in the first place.

[SHsheff 10]

£900 a month?

 

I'm positive you can find something alot cheaper than that

 

I thought that, then realised that the OP means £450 bond and £450 first months' rent up front.

[Gunner 11]

REPORTING Definitely not. Very dangerous practice. The Government could do much to stop this fraud.

 

To the subject.

I have a nephew that has worked since leaving school at 16. He is now 23. He has been on the waiting list for a flat for 6 years. No chance at all. He has even been told that if he were to go to prison for a short time he would qualify for help on release, If he were to pack in his job and sign on the dole, He would qualify for help. If he left the family home where life can be uncomfortable because of overcrowding and a family member ill. He would be able to sign homeless and go to an hostel for a few weeks. Maybe then he would be given a flat. If he was a drug addct or a person at risk or pregnant ( LOL LOL ) he would qualify, When will this Council realize the system is wrong. The bidding system they have is ludicrous, Yet they claim it is a success. Maybe the Lib Dems may try to unravel the mess we are in, But I doubt it now they are in power, They no longer need the votes till next time.

[Tipex 10]

The benefits system was established in order to help those in genuine need. Unfortunately, it's been hijacked by the following;

1. The lazy

2. Millions of underskilled immigrants who add zero to the economy, and who breed like rabbits

3. Millions of underskilled kids who add zero to the economy, and who breed like rabbits

4. Millions of people who walk up and down Fargate and any town centre in this country, with a stick, in an attempt to justify their Invalidity Benefit

5. Kids with kids. Next time your in town, count the number of kids, pushing prams. Vicious circle. The underclass in this country, in general, are breeding at a far faster rate than the educated and ambitious.

 

This country has a major problem on the horizon.

 

What an amazing post. I must say i agree with you 100%