wykewatson   10 #1 Posted June 22, 2008 .does anyone know what happened to the wharncliffe estate. seem to remember the earl had two daughters one who died in a car accident years ago. also that he died in an accident years ago. ring any bells Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rubydazzler   11 #2 Posted June 22, 2008 Was the title at least inherited by a man in Australia? I seem to remember something about it at the time. Not sure about the actual estate itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #3 Posted June 22, 2008 it must be nearly 20 years ago... I seem to think Ruby has hit the nail on the head, with the inheritance of the title, at least.  *goes off to google* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #4 Posted June 22, 2008 PS, yes, I wiki'ed it, and:- Alan James Montagu-Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie, who was the 4th Earl of Wharncliffe, died in 1987 (B 1935), so I wasn't far out in saying 20 years. (even if I'd underestimated it)  and according to Wiki, the line failed with him, and the title passed to Richard Alan Montagu Stuart Wortley, 5th Earl of Wharncliffe (b1953)  The Heir Apparent is the present holder's eldest son, Reed Montagu-Stuart-Wortley, Viscount Carlton (b. 1980) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rubydazzler   11 #5 Posted June 22, 2008 But, does he still live in Oz, and did he get the estate too? I've googled but couldn't find much of relevance, just what we already know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hillsbro   32 #6 Posted June 22, 2008 When the old earl died I remember reading in The Star that the 5th Earl of Wharncliffe lived in America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
wykewatson   10 #7 Posted June 23, 2008 i have goggled and found out there is a 5th earl.also found out wortley hall is a conference centre. if the 4th earl died ssome years ago where would his widow go.believe her name was aline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nigel Womersle   10 #8 Posted June 23, 2008 They vacated Wortley Hall many many years ago - 1940's I think. The late Earl and his Countess lived in Carlton House, in Wortley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jabberwocky   46 #9 Posted June 23, 2008 I vaguely remember the Earl racing around in his car like a madman in the 70s... didnt he get into trouble a few times for dangerous driving and drink driving? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Texas   10 #10 Posted June 23, 2008 What's wrong with that Jabberwocky? When you're an Earl that's what you do. Personally I think he should've done time for playing? drums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #11 Posted June 23, 2008 Google,   HEREDITY PRODUCES A MORE DIVERSE BUNCH OF LEGISLATORS THAN SITS IN THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED US SENATE ORIGINALLY A HIGHFALUTIN BUNCH OF BUSINESS MILITARY AND POLITICAL LEADERS IN THE BRITISH ISLES THE HOUSE OF LORDS NOW BOASTS MEMBERS IN EVERY SOCIAL CLASS AND ON NEARLY EVERY CONTINENT IN AMERICA ALONE THERE ARE NEARLY A DOZEN LORDS AS WELL AS COUNTLESS LORDSTOBE SUCH AS COMEDIAN CHRISTOPHER GUEST A FORMER REGULAR ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE AND THE HUSBAND OF ACTRESS JAMIE LEE CURTIS  IN A CHAMBER WITH ABYSMAL ATTENDANCE TURNOUT FOR THE AVERAGE MEETING IS 30 SOME OF THE MORE DISTANT MEMBERS NEVER SHOW UP AT ALL SUCH AS THE FIFTH EARL OF WHARNCLIFFE A MAINE CONSTRUCTION FOREMAN NAMED RICHARD WORTLEY BUT RICHARD ACTON WHO WRITES A COLUMN FOR THE DES MOINES REGISTER UNDER THE BYLINE LORD ACTON FREQUENTLY TRAVELS TO PARLIAMENT FROM HIS HOME IN CEDAR RAPIDS IOWA I'VE ATTENDED 50SOMETHING DAYS THIS YEAR HE SAID IN EARLY OCTOBER BY THE STANDARDS OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS I'M A REGULAR ATTENDER LORDS IS USUALLY IN SESSION ABOUT 150 DAYS A YEAR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
beechnut   10 #12 Posted June 23, 2008 I vaguely remember the Earl racing around in his car like a madman in the 70s... didnt he get into trouble a few times for dangerous driving and drink driving?  Yes - one one occasion he was involved in an accident in which someone was killed. I think he served a prison sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...