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People like you unfortunately fall for introducing a parking zone syndrome lets make hillsborough a no parking zone so no one can enjoy the park etc without paying in either the car park or on the surrounding street the council love people like you but like I've said before YOU choose to live in the area so why should people who pay for road fund licence insurance etc etc have to pay again just cos you don't like it don't forget the so called builders visitors and utilities etc that come to your house will need you to supply a ticket for them to come to your house DONT forget over time Prices only go up.

People who vote for a parking zone should be the only ones that pay those that don't want one shouldn't have to pay at all YOU WANT ONE YOU PAY END OF .

 

Please don't get personal, we're all allowed to express our opinions, especially those of us who live in the affected area.

 

We moved here just a few years ago, we were quite aware of the parking issues. We had two cars and when we came to live in an area well served by public transport, we got rid of one of them. The tram was a major reason we picked Hillsborough. I make sure I know when home matches are on, and don't take the car out then. However, people driving into the area should respect the residents who live here.

 

My dislike of match day parking has nothing to do with the number of cars, its the way they are parked. Some motorists appear to abandon their vehicles across junctions - so double yellows on the corners have to be an improvement. I also understand what tzijlstra means about parking at the bottom of Dorothy, Lennox etc. I regularly see cars with tickets on the windscreen because they have parked beyond the 'No stopping clearway' sign. Its clear in the highway code that they shouldn't, but its pretty obvious that lots of drivers don't know that. And as mumkin points out, its illegal.

 

Its unlikely parking permits will be introduced onto our road, we certainly voted against it as we normally have no real parking issues.

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Completely agree about the Dorothy Road concerns. To be honest I enjoy seeing people learning an expensive lesson by parking before the Clearway signs.

 

The bowling club and running clubs can be a pain, blocking drives, cars, parking on junctions, and not using up the full space on the road. Football isn't quite so bad because you know when it is and work around it.

 

When you live on a tight road you get used to making the most of all the space so that as many cars as possible can fit on. Sometimes our piece of road goes from 6 to 3 cars because they're parked so badly.

 

I'm not sure where I stand about parking permits, but it's annoying when you're a single car household and can't park because your next door neighbour has 3 cars.

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Please don't get personal, we're all allowed to express our opinions, especially those of us who live in the affected area.

 

We moved here just a few years ago, we were quite aware of the parking issues. We had two cars and when we came to live in an area well served by public transport, we got rid of one of them. The tram was a major reason we picked Hillsborough. I make sure I know when home matches are on, and don't take the car out then. However, people driving into the area should respect the residents who live here.

 

My dislike of match day parking has nothing to do with the number of cars, its the way they are parked. Some motorists appear to abandon their vehicles across junctions - so double yellows on the corners have to be an improvement. I also understand what tzijlstra means about parking at the bottom of Dorothy, Lennox etc. I regularly see cars with tickets on the windscreen because they have parked beyond the 'No stopping clearway' sign. Its clear in the highway code that they shouldn't, but its pretty obvious that lots of drivers don't know that. And as mumkin points out, its illegal.

 

Its unlikely parking permits will be introduced onto our road, we certainly voted against it as we normally have no real parking issues.

 

I'm not getting personnel at all I'm frustrated I used to live just off middlewood rd a few years ago I still local and I'm sick and tired of people moaning about parking yes it's bad but has been for years according to some if I want to go to the park in the car I have to pay if I park on the streets I would have to pay if I shop in hillsborough bank in hillsborough socialise in hillsborough I have to pay and before anyone says anything I'm not to great on my pins and the buses are very unreliable so I pay more than enough to keep my car on the road and where I live I probably pay more council tax so I think it's a bit unfair DONT you oh! And up n till fairly recent I would have had to pay to call on my daughter and grandson who used to live just off middlewood road.

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That's what is so wrong with the system is that on a road of say 100 if 51 voted for it and 49 was against it it would be brought in so you would have NO choice but to pay and that can't be right!!!!
It's worse than that - there's no "voting". People are offered a say in a "consultation". Then the collected data is packaged up and presented to the council for a decision.

Even if 100% of people replied to a "consultation" and 100% of them said they didn't want it, the council can still decide to put the scheme in.

The only place to change it is the ballot box when it's local election time.

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It's worse than that - there's no "voting". People are offered a say in a "consultation". Then the collected data is packaged up and presented to the council for a decision.

Even if 100% of people replied to a "consultation" and 100% of them said they didn't want it, the council can still decide to put the scheme in.

The only place to change it is the ballot box when it's local election time.

 

Deaf ears Phil. You know it, I think I remember your posts earlier but can't be arsed to look now.

 

Our road, was £5 for 25 day tickets, ordered some new ones yesterday, now £12.50 for 25.

 

Who can stop them? They can do what they want once they've got you. Wait long enough and people forget.

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Deaf ears Phil. You know it, I think I remember your posts earlier but can't be arsed to look now.

 

Our road, was £5 for 25 day tickets, ordered some new ones yesterday, now £12.50 for 25.

 

Who can stop them? They can do what they want once they've got you. Wait long enough and people forget.

 

Don't worry, Planner1 will be along in a minute to say that it's only 50p, it's less than the price of a pint and if you can't afford 50p you shouldn't be driving a car etc etc.

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Don't worry, Planner1 will be along in a minute to say that it's only 50p, it's less than the price of a pint and if you can't afford 50p you shouldn't be driving a car etc etc.

 

If you look at the AA's Motoring Costs 2013 you will see that among the other cost of running a car they include parking.

http://www.theaa.com/resources/Documents/pdf/motoring-advice/running-costs/diesel2013.pdf

Parking is part of running a car just like filling the tank.

Here is another calculator for the cost of running a car, life is not cheap when you add in all the extras http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-1633412/Calculator-True-cost-running-car.html

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I'm not getting personnel at all I'm frustrated I used to live just off middlewood rd a few years ago I still local and I'm sick and tired of people moaning about parking yes it's bad but has been for years according to some if I want to go to the park in the car I have to pay if I park on the streets I would have to pay if I shop in hillsborough bank in hillsborough socialise in hillsborough I have to pay and before anyone says anything I'm not to great on my pins and the buses are very unreliable so I pay more than enough to keep my car on the road and where I live I probably pay more council tax so I think it's a bit unfair DONT you oh! And up n till fairly recent I would have had to pay to call on my daughter and grandson who used to live just off middlewood road.

 

I can park free when I take my car to Hillsborough. B&M for 90 minutes or Taplin Rd along from Haden Street for 2 hours. Most busy places now have to have some restrictions otherwise people would leave their cars all day - as was happening in HB. As the population have more and more cars, it must be obvious to all that busy areas get even busier. I've said in earlier posts that my friends who drive here to meet me regularly for coffee get parked far more easily than when it was free all day. They don't grudge £1 for the privilege.

 

When our daughter worked at St Mary's in Paddington (about 15 years ago), she lived in NHS accommodation. The flats were part of a really nice complex, however, even back then when we went to help move her belongings, she had to pay for a visitor's parking pass. But at least we were near her home. Where she lives in Hillsborough (off Walkley Lane) parking near her home is well nigh impossible after 6pm. She'd love a permit scheme from 6pm-6am with a maximum of 2 permits per household - but that isn't likely to happen.

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It's worse than that - there's no "voting". People are offered a say in a "consultation". Then the collected data is packaged up and presented to the council for a decision.

Even if 100% of people replied to a "consultation" and 100% of them said they didn't want it, the council can still decide to put the scheme in.

The only place to change it is the ballot box when it's local election time.

That's the way all council decisions are made. Do you recognise the difficulty and expense of having a proper ballot for every decision?

 

You get quite low turnouts at local government elections, so, chances are, even if you had proper ballots on every significant decision, the response would be not much better than the consultations that they already do.

 

No scheme has ever been put in against overwhelming rejection. Areas which say they don't want a scheme, don't get one. That happened at Hillsborough. That should give you confidence that the Councillors do pay close attention to public opinion.

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That's the way all council decisions are made. Do you recognise the difficulty and expense of having a proper ballot for every decision?

 

You get quite low turnouts at local government elections, so, chances are, even if you had proper ballots on every significant decision, the response would be not much better than the consultations that they already do.

 

No scheme has ever been put in against overwhelming rejection. Areas which say they don't want a scheme, don't get one. That happened at Hillsborough. That should give you confidence that the Councillors do pay close attention to public opinion.

 

I had a conversation with the chap at the council looking after this. I asked him how many responses he had from our road. He said he couldn't remember exact numbers, but off the top of his head he thought there were "about 3 or 4 in favour and 3 or 4 against". So, from a road of approx 25 households, they had approximately 6-8 responses, with a 50-50 split of opinion. And from that they decided that there was a mandate to impliment the scheme?!! How is that to be considered a majority? How is it also considering the lack of response from empty households, and those with off-road parking who will take one look at a permit scheme and say "don't care - won't effect us we have a drive/garage/both" and promptly chuck it in the bin?

 

It's ludicrous. This is why I asked whether the council can be forced to present the data, because, surely there is something morally - and potentially legally - wrong in claiming a majority in favour when it's clear that anything but a majority of residents on the road have responded in favour of the scheme?

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I can park free when I take my car to Hillsborough. B&M for 90 minutes or Taplin Rd along from Haden Street for 2 hours. Most busy places now have to have some restrictions otherwise people would leave their cars all day - as was happening in HB. As the population have more and more cars, it must be obvious to all that busy areas get even busier. I've said in earlier posts that my friends who drive here to meet me regularly for coffee get parked far more easily than when it was free all day. They don't grudge £1 for the privilege.

 

When our daughter worked at St Mary's in Paddington (about 15 years ago), she lived in NHS accommodation. The flats were part of a really nice complex, however, even back then when we went to help move her belongings, she had to pay for a visitor's parking pass. But at least we were near her home. Where she lives in Hillsborough (off Walkley Lane) parking near her home is well nigh impossible after 6pm. She'd love a permit scheme from 6pm-6am with a maximum of 2 permits per household - but that isn't likely to happen.

 

You obviously don't understand what I'm getting at,Why should 1 person make a decision that brings charges in for another person who DOES NOT want it it's like me saying you should pay twice as much council tax than your next door neighbour I'm sure you would agree to that wouldn't you?????

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That's what is so wrong with the system is that on a road of say 100 if 51 voted for it and 49 was against it it would be brought in so you would have NO choice but to pay and that can't be right!!!!

 

isnt that democracy?

are you saying that those who want permits pay and those who dont want permits dont pay but still get the benefit of parking for free??

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