newvanandman   10 #25 Posted May 29, 2008 what would have happened to road pricing if that petition had not been created  Your not daft enough to think its gone away do you? This goverment certainly wouldnt be brave enough to talk about it this side of an election,but its far from gone away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Warden   10 #26 Posted May 29, 2008 Total waste of time. Asking people to vote for low taxes is like shooting fish in a barrel isn't it? Simplistic nonsense.  It convenient fails to mention whcih hopitals will close or whcih branch of the armes forces will lose funding.or which other taxes will rise to replace the lost revenue.  I won't be signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
anarchist   10 #27 Posted May 29, 2008 Your not daft enough to think its gone away do you? This goverment certainly wouldnt be brave enough to talk about it this side of an election,but its far from gone away.  In that case it served its purpose didn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nick2   10 #28 Posted May 29, 2008 Signed it, but there will be direct action next week to go alongside it.  Who will that effect ?  MP's - I doubt it Oil companies - probably not Car drivers - Yes The public - Yes Small bussinesses - Yes  Whats the point ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
plekhanov   10 #29 Posted May 29, 2008 I dont know if anyone has already started this thread but if not, heres a link to the fuel duty petition on the government website.  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Lowerduty30/  They paid attention to the pay as you drive one so lets see if they do to this one.  was 83 952 signatures last time i looked So which other taxes do you want to be increased to make up for the loss of revenue to the exchequer that reducing fuel duty would inevitably cause? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
beer   10 #30 Posted May 29, 2008 So which other taxes do you want to be increased to make up for the loss of revenue to the exchequer that reducing fuel duty would inevitably cause?  Surely the extra that the Chancellor gets from oil revenue and extra VAT on high priced fuels can pay for the cut. The government cannot be strapped for cash. They just spent £2.7 billion trying to save Gordon Browns reputation over the 10p tax fiasco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BasilRathbon   10 #31 Posted May 29, 2008 Surely the extra that the Chancellor gets from oil revenue and extra VAT on high priced fuels can pay for the cut. The government cannot be strapped for cash. They just spent £2.7 billion trying to save Gordon Browns reputation over the 10p tax fiasco.  I think we should close as many schools and hospitals as we can and use the money saved to cut petrol prices to help people who enjoy driving around at top speeds for the sake of it to get more out of their leisure time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
plekhanov   10 #32 Posted May 29, 2008 Surely the extra that the Chancellor gets from oil revenue and extra VAT on high priced fuels can pay for the cut. The government cannot be strapped for cash. They just spent £2.7 billion trying to save Gordon Browns reputation over the 10p tax fiasco. Will you please show the calculations by which you arrived at the conclusion that the government can cut taxes and magically not lose any revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tony   10 #33 Posted May 29, 2008 So which other taxes do you want to be increased to make up for the loss of revenue to the exchequer that reducing fuel duty would inevitably cause?  There is a radical common sense right wing school that espouses getting better value for money on what they already spend   Tax revenue does not equal services... it just equals tax revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
beer   10 #34 Posted May 29, 2008 Will you please show the calculations by which you arrived at the conclusion that the government can cut taxes and magically not lose any revenue.  Quite simple>>>  Price of petrol increases by £1.00 per gallon in just a few months. Government get £0.15p extra VAT on every gallon sold. They also get a major windfall from oil revenues from the North Sea. Cutting duty by £0.15p per gallon is merely returning the windfall they have been making from the extra tax they have been getting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
plekhanov   10 #35 Posted May 29, 2008 There is a radical common sense right wing school that espouses getting better value for money on what they already spend   Tax revenue does not equal services... it just equals tax revenue. Which is why I used the word 'revenue' in my post, greater efficiency from government spending is of course always desirable but is sadly much easier to demand and promise than deliver.  Quite simple>>> Price of petrol increases by £1.00 per gallon in just a few months. Government get £0.15p extra VAT on every gallon sold. They also get a major windfall from oil revenues from the North Sea. Cutting duty by £0.15p per gallon is merely returning the windfall they have been making from the extra tax they have been getting. And of course additional revenue from VAT receipts from oil won't in anyway be offset by people not being able to spend that money on other things and so lowering VAT receipts from other goods and services... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sccsux   10 #36 Posted May 29, 2008 The government cannot be strapped for cash. They just spent £2.7 billion trying to save Gordon Browns reputation over the 10p tax fiasco.  There's also the matter of the bailing out of Northern Rock (which is the last thing I'd have expected from a "socialist" party) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...