tonynmorris   10 #1 Posted May 20, 2008 I have noticed when I visit Fargate near Marks and Spencer the Big Issue Sellers seem to smoke cannabis, well atleast the young chap about 20's does. I just feel sorry for their dogs who appear to be ok in health but it is not a place for homeless dogs, they do wear dog coats but dont have regular food or essential clean fresh water. I applaud the Cathedral homeless shelter and St. Annes Community Services for their help, but we should as the english society should be looking in to moving away from Big issue enterprises and placing them into accommodation, help with addictions and training for jobs. I am fed up of seeing eastern europeans taking our jobs and becoming service users, I watched the Tonight programme last night on ITV1 regarding Polish workers on Construction sites. This is cheap labour, they have language barriers and lack of helath and safety knowledge, the point I am making is that this is boom time in terms of regeneration and community development of our Towns and Cities, so get rid of Big Issue sellers and place them into assisted help. We pay our taxes for for goods and services, so come on Government and Council help them and help us who sometimes get targetted for some abuse from some sellers who dont make any sales due to them and their attitude and behaviour. The UK Commerce and Industry should be about training for skills and implimenting them in whatever industry, not about making money out of Big Issue sellers because of their status and backgound. __________________ Tony Neil Morris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Warden   10 #2 Posted May 20, 2008 Crikey. Three threads in a week on Big Issue sellers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chem1st   10 #3 Posted May 20, 2008 The foreign guy outside TJ's is funny as ****, he always puts a smile on my face, I might have to get him a cuppa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
scargill   10 #4 Posted May 20, 2008 I have noticed when I visit Fargate near Marks and Spencer the Big Issue Sellers seem to smoke cannabis, well atleast the young chap about 20's does. I just feel sorry for their dogs who appear to be ok in health but it is not a place for homeless dogs, they do wear dog coats but dont have regular food or essential clean fresh water. I applaud the Cathedral homeless shelter and St. Annes Community Services for their help, but we should as the english society should be looking in to moving away from Big issue enterprises and placing them into accommodation, help with addictions and training for jobs. I am fed up of seeing eastern europeans taking our jobs and becoming service users, I watched the Tonight programme last night on ITV1 regarding Polish workers on Construction sites. This is cheap labour, they have language barriers and lack of helath and safety knowledge, the point I am making is that this is boom time in terms of regeneration and community development of our Towns and Cities, so get rid of Big Issue sellers and place them into assisted help. We pay our taxes for for goods and services, so come on Government and Council help them and help us who sometimes get targetted for some abuse from some sellers who dont make any sales due to them and their attitude and behaviour. The UK Commerce and Industry should be about training for skills and implimenting them in whatever industry, not about making money out of Big Issue sellers because of their status and backgound. __________________ Tony Neil Morris  You need to remember some people dont want to work, and will never work whilst there is a benifits system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kblade   10 #5 Posted May 20, 2008 I took a pic of one outside M&S a week or so ago. The wording above his head had a kinda sad irony   I've nothing against them. I wouldn't like to be in their position Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kimba   10 #6 Posted May 20, 2008 I took a pic of one outside M&S a week or so ago. The wording above his head had a kinda sad irony  I've nothing against them. I wouldn't like to be in their position  :hihi: i like that piccy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DannyGUK   10 #7 Posted May 20, 2008 I took a pic of one outside M&S a week or so ago. The wording above his head had a kinda sad irony  I've nothing against them. I wouldn't like to be in their position  HA HA HA HA That is the best photo i have ever seen i feel for them but the photos funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #8 Posted May 20, 2008 You need to remember some people dont want to work, and will never work whilst there is a benifits system.  that is possibly correct, but selling Big Issues is work and will almost certainly affect the seller's rights to benefits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kblade   10 #9 Posted May 20, 2008 HA HA HA HA That is the best photo i have ever seen i feel for them but the photos funny.   After spotting another guy sat here   I'm beginning to think they know where to sit for a bit of amusement lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the snowman   10 #10 Posted May 20, 2008 The UK Commerce and Industry should be about training for skills and implimenting them in whatever industry, not about making money out of Big Issue sellers because of their status and backgound. __________________ Tony Neil Morris  I'm not having a go and correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Big Issue only covered it's costs. The profit went to the seller and noone is making money out of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
smsm   10 #11 Posted May 20, 2008 A lot of Big Issue sellers do have a home. They are obviously classed as homeless and many will have been through interim accommodation etc. but they are often just starting to try to maintain their own tenancy or living in supported accommodation. And one of the conditions (I think) of being a seller is that you seek help with any drug problems. One of the Big Issue sellers I talk to lives in a small bedsit and uses the Big Issue money to pay his rent and bills because he'd rather work (selling the Big Issue) than live off benefits even though he has nothing left after his basics. From what I know the Big Issue is a way of helping people become more independent and an incentive for sorting their problems out. It's not just a money making scheme for the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #12 Posted May 20, 2008 I have noticed when I visit Fargate near Marks and Spencer the Big Issue Sellers seem to smoke cannabis, well atleast the young chap about 20's does. I just feel sorry for their dogs who appear to be ok in health but it is not a place for homeless dogs, they do wear dog coats but dont have regular food or essential clean fresh water. I applaud the Cathedral homeless shelter and St. Annes Community Services for their help, but we should as the english society should be looking in to moving away from Big issue enterprises and placing them into accommodation, help with addictions and training for jobs. I am fed up of seeing eastern europeans taking our jobs and becoming service users, I watched the Tonight programme last night on ITV1 regarding Polish workers on Construction sites. This is cheap labour, they have language barriers and lack of helath and safety knowledge, the point I am making is that this is boom time in terms of regeneration and community development of our Towns and Cities, so get rid of Big Issue sellers and place them into assisted help. We pay our taxes for for goods and services, so come on Government and Council help them and help us who sometimes get targetted for some abuse from some sellers who dont make any sales due to them and their attitude and behaviour. The UK Commerce and Industry should be about training for skills and implimenting them in whatever industry, not about making money out of Big Issue sellers because of their status and backgound.  Can you explain to me just how you extrapolate that theorem, that " one ish vendor allegedly uses cannabis, therefore they all do"  Some are certainly recieving methadone therapy, as a measure to wean them off hard-drugs, but not all have a substance abuse problem, and the big ish charity, provides support and help to the vendor WRT finding accommodation and in accessing substance abuse help where needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...