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It's to stop cowboy firms who fit obviously dodgy electrical stuff, with warranties that legally aren't worth the cheap used bog roll they're written on.

 

 

 

Rubbish !

 

These quals won't stop cowboys, they can easily bypass these rules anyway

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its gone crazy... i have fitted solid fuel now for years ...and now you need qualifications ????? whats that all about ??

 

another £739.85 down the pan . :(

 

£739.85 up in smoke, surely.:)

 

I understand the need for gas and electric qualifications from the safety aspect, but I didn't realise solid fuel was going the same way. Does this mean that anyone installing solid fuel burning equipment will need formal certification, similar to Corgi? If so, that seems a bit OTT to me. But as others have said, it does seem to be the way things are going.

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It's to stop cowboy firms who fit obviously dodgy electrical stuff, with warranties that legally aren't worth the cheap used bog roll they're written on.

 

No its not. Its to make as much money as possible,mostly in training and re-training. Its b******t and will put a lot of hard-working,experienced tradesmen out of business,whilst making the maintainence of a home financially impossible :rant:

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to be honest solid fuel is a lot more dangerous than a gas appliance due to the flueing of the appliance, people burn all kinds of stuff and never have the chimney checked/swept which causes all kinds of problems.

 

but back to trades and training, i have been in the trade now for near on 20 years and have never seen so much legislation and red tape ...

 

i spoke today to our trainer and said the course was another stab in the back to the tradesman as it pushes the divide yet again between a tradesman and the general diy man.

 

i cant go in a property to do electrical works and sign it off unless it is safe and sound.. making it safe as per regs is getting costly and guess what the customer pays.

 

a diy guy can call in and fit a light fitting or swop a shower or a couple of sockets and no one cares, the repair works and every one is happy..

 

so who does the customer call ? an electrician with public liability/experience/the correct tools for the job and finally a test cert to show complete a job. and pay say £150 pound.

 

or call a diyer in who pulls out a pair of steps from his astra estate, turns off the consumer and swops a few sockets/new light, flicks the electric back on and walks away with £40.00.

 

come July a lot of electricians/small businesses will be forced out business by the new legislation and over heads and also higher trading costs or be forced to trade illegally ,

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And if, god forbid, the £40 quid diy boy bodges it and causes a fire or other calamity, you can bet your bottom dollar your house insurance will be invalid.

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Iv just bought a shower cubicle and want a new fuse board putting in and the shower run from it.Any decent sparks out there.:(

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And if, god forbid, the £40 quid diy boy bodges it and causes a fire or other calamity, you can bet your bottom dollar your house insurance will be invalid.

 

Over here in the States I have to fit GFI's on every socket, plus have to have it engineered and stamped, and supposedly due to brush fires, what in hells teeth has house wiring got to do with brush fires, but none the less that's what I gota do.

 

Its coming for you guys, maybe not tomorrow, but its on its way.

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