School 1977 vs School 2007

[mr_busdriver]

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Training courses vary in standard. The majority of them come nowhere near to the standard of training you receive from studying a formal teaching qualification at a well-graded institution. .

 

 

 

 

Having studied and completed one of these courses, I have to say (with loads of confidence) that a teaching degree, is the biggest pile of cak, I've ever come accross.

 

In fact, the last time I saw so much cak was when next doors Poodle, accidently ate 30 Laxative tables by mistake.

 

 

Its all well and good knowing the theorys of Minton, Reece & Walker and all that other garbage, buts its no subsitute for proper people skills.

 

I know of one person on the course who passed with flying colours, yet in front of a class went to pieces. Yet another person, who was forever having assignments refered, had amazing pass rates when teaching his own class

[DIVA]

Having studied and completed one of these courses, I have to say (with loads of confidence) that a teaching degree, is the biggest pile of cak, I've ever come accross.

 

In fact, the last time I saw so much cak was when next doors Poodle, accidently ate 30 Laxative tables by mistake.

 

 

Its all well and good knowing the theorys of Minton, Reece & Walker and all that other garbage, buts its no subsitute for proper people skills.

 

I know of one person on the course who passed with flying colours, yet in front of a class went to pieces. Yet another person, who was forever having assignments refered, had amazing pass rates when teaching his own class

 

 

Can I ask how long ago this was?

Which institution are you referring to?

 

You do know that there is a probationary year, don't you? So anyone who still went to pieces in front of the class, who had not made significant progress would not remain teaching?

[mr_busdriver]

Can I ask how long ago this was?

Which institution are you referring to?

 

You do know that there is a probationary year, don't you? So anyone who still went to pieces in front of the class, who had not made significant progress would not remain teaching?

 

 

 

 

Not true.

 

The probaitioners recieve councelling from their mentors.

 

So the incompetent remain in front of the classroom, and the kids suffer.

[DIVA]

Not true.

 

The probaitioners recieve councelling from their mentors.

 

So the incompetent remain in front of the classroom, and the kids suffer.

 

A probationer who doesn't meet the required standard, may initially be given support/counselling from a mentor but if they haven't met the required standard by the end of the year, it would not be in the school's interest to keep the probationer on. The school doesn't want to be lumbered with a teacher who doesn't make the grade on their payroll and it's not too difficult to find another probationer, it's experienced teachers with good records that are hard to come by, and more expensive.

 

Did you not wish to answer the questions I asked, regarding your post? I note you have ignored them.

[DIVA]

Its all well and good knowing the theorys of Minton, Reece & Walker and all that other garbage, buts its no subsitute for proper people skills.

 

I know of one person on the course who passed with flying colours, yet in front of a class went to pieces. Yet another person, who was forever having assignments refered, had amazing pass rates when teaching his own class

 

Under the current system, (as has been around for years) this would be impossible. You are graded for your assignments but also on your performance in the classrooom, as extended periods of assessed teaching practice is integral to the course. If you went to pieces in front of the class, it wouldn't matter how well you did on your assignments, you would not pass and vice versa.

 

To qualify as a teacher today, you need not only complete a recognised teaching course and hold the relevant degree qualification, you have to reach the required standard of the course and then complete a successful year's probationary period in a school. Did you obtain a pass and then go on to do a succesful year's probationary period after completing your teacher training degree?

[mr_busdriver]

Not wishing to name the institution, as they are simply delivering a course.

 

Its simply the course both the Cert ed and the PGCE.

 

Despite the highly trained teachers, and the never ending hoops that teachers have to jump through, after 10 years of schooling too many are barely numerate and literate which for society as a whole is a ticking time bomb.

 

Not to mention the poor kids who are the victims of our shocking education system

[DIVA]

Having studied and completed one of these courses, I have to say (with loads of confidence) that a teaching degree, is the biggest pile of cak, I've ever come accross.

 

In fact, the last time I saw so much cak was when next doors Poodle, accidently ate 30 Laxative tables by mistake.

 

 

Considering what you thought of their course, I thought you'd have only been to happy to name the institution.

 

To clarify the current situation, this is what wiki says about the PGCE and Cert Ed:

 

New Cert Ed

The current Cert Ed is a non-compulsory qualification offering training in teaching at further or higher education level.

 

Those wanting to teach at primary or secondary education must undertake either a Bachelor of Education degree or a non-education degree followed by a postgraduate qualification in teaching, such as the PGCE.

 

 

[edit] Old Cert Ed

The old Cert Ed was a qualification that was required for non-degree holders to become teachers (degree holders could become teachers without any further study). The Cert Ed course took two (or later three) years to complete and was studied at a teacher training college, College of Education, (or later at a university) with placements in local schools.

 

Originally, those with Cert Eds would qualify as 'assistant teachers' with only degree-holders (who, ironically, did not hold any education qualifications at all) being regarded as full teachers. This distinction was removed in the 1960s.

 

The Cert Ed was discontinued in the early 1980s (when a bachelor's degree and a teacher training qualification became a requirement for new teachers) and was replaced by the Bachelor of Education (BEd) degree.

 

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_in_Education"