Deer Hunting, for or against ?

[uniB]

Originally posted by thenewborn

foxes may not be a pest to you, or me, but to a farmer who losese chickens i can see why. same with deers, they damamge the trees by stripping the bark, so you and i may not see them as a pest. i also dislike grey squirrels, which may be cute, but is basicly a rat with a bushy tale, and if they get in your roof they cause havock. They also killed the red ones!

 

Have farmers not heard of chicken wire? And how do the foxes get into the battery farms?

 

Personally I don't kill anything on purpose, I don't like wasps much but I'm sure we can live along side them without too much bother.

 

So squirrels are rats with good PR - so what exactly is wrong with rats? They are intelligent creatures who have as much right to be here as you or I.

 

Maybe we should kill all animals, squirrels mess up roofs, deer mess up the bumpers of cars when they stand in the road, dogs get excited and bite children, cats eat blue tits, pigeons have ugly feet, rats have long hairless tails, cows produce a lot of wind, badgers dig holes that mess up land, Aardvarks mess up what ants have got going on, non native rabbits messed up the eco system in Australia (actually that is bad). They all do it through instint and survival, humans probably do it through instint as well, but I'm not sure what that instint is.

[Cyclone]

Whilst i might agree that humans do fit in quite well to my definition of pest i really don't see how it contributes to the discussion and it seemed to me that you were suggesting that we (or maybe someone else) should control our numbers.

The idea that we have a 'chav' season where you can sneak around meadowhall shooting anyone you spot wearing burbery or too much bling is a bit ridiculous, hence the loopey smiley.

 

Patchy - how does hunting and killing foxes encourage them to breed more, it's a little difficult for them to breed if they are dead. (not that i support fox hunting in it's current format).

[max]

Originally posted by Cyclone

Patchy - how does hunting and killing foxes encourage them to breed more, it's a little difficult for them to breed if they are dead. (not that i support fox hunting in it's current format).

 

Because the hunts import foxes, mostly fox cubs, from other areas to ensure they have sufficient numbers. Plus, they create artificial areas for the foxes to live in and supply sheep carcasses to these areas to, again, ensure the foxes stick around when it's time to 'control' their numbers.

[Modesty]

Originally posted by poppins

Don't know if your area hasa problem with deer,

 

Just like to address this threads theme, as it seems to have drifted into a general hunting disscusion. Of which their are many others on this forum.

 

No we don't have the same kind of problem with deer as you in the USA.

You may come across them in Cumbria, that's the North West of England (the breast of the island) or more commonly in Scotland (a different country that sits on the top of England).

 

I also have a place in Cumbria, so I know from experience that we don't have problems with them running out onto main roads.

You may come across them at the side of single track minor roads but I am talking dirt tracks here.

Over here they tend to be more skittish, so the noise of the car usually sends them of to hide.

 

I visit Scotland quite a lot and they have far more and quite majestic breeds, but again you would have to do some hikeing to come across them.

As Scotland is quite a big open and wild area with little "civilisation".

 

We do however have sheep! Lots of them around these parts and as someone as mentioned, we tend to drive more carefully when in these area's.

On the occasion that one is hit we don't really have a gun at hand in the back of the car (it's against our law).

So it's a case of calling the emergency services or finding the farmer who owns the sheep.

 

I do know of late, that their as been some unusual sightings of roe deer entering city parks and even cemmeterrys, so it could be very different in the future.

 

On a biased note, I'm a big fan of Deer and would go as far to say that they are my favourite animal, after the Boarder Collie of course!