Guest poppins Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Silly Question, what do you all mean when you use the word LOL. Thanks, just don't want to miss out on anything !
D2J Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by poppins Silly Question, what do you all mean when you use the word LOL. Thanks, just don't want to miss out on anything ! LOL = Laughing out Loud
ToryCynic Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by Clumber I use it, and the good old semi-colon. I fully agree with what you've said about the lack of grammar in what is, after all, our native tongue. However we just have to accept that some people (for whatever reason) have maybe not had as a good an education as the rest of us. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of what age groups struggle with grammar and punctuation - I'd put money on it being the younger end - the age group where teachers thought it trendy not to worry about spelling but do everything phonetically. But the thing that really gets me is TEXTSPEAK in messages like this - there is no excuse for it, its not a lack of education but laziness!! Hmm... interesting idea that; I am 16, yet I do "bother" to read and acquire a decent vocabulary and build-up decent English skills that way. Unfortunately, I have noticed the decline of m English in general due to Instant Messaaging and people writing "lol" "brb" , etc etc. I do try to continue writing with a reasonable level of English. I suppose it helps that I read a paper too, then again it may not... Alex
Greenback Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by Clumber I use it, and the good old semi-colon. I fully agree with what you've said about the lack of grammar in what is, after all, our native tongue. However we just have to accept that some people (for whatever reason) have maybe not had as a good an education as the rest of us. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of what age groups struggle with grammar and punctuation - I'd put money on it being the younger end - the age group where teachers thought it trendy not to worry about spelling but do everything phonetically. But the thing that really gets me is TEXTSPEAK in messages like this - there is no excuse for it, its not a lack of education but laziness!! Not sure all the blame should be put at the feet of the young 'uns. Plenty of older people can't spell simple words or use language properly - I come across it all the time in my work. Whenever I see 'your' used where 'you're' should be, I do cringe though, no matter where I see it. Oh, and 'practice' instead of 'practise', and 'complementary' instead of 'complimentary, 'independant' instead of 'independent'... perhaps I should just get a life!
march Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by cosywolf Hope this helps. Just bear with me, please, it really drives me crazy:blush: ...so have some patience with me, and maybe a look? Their: It belongs to them. It is THEIR right to spell this word however they like. There: WhERE is the mad grammar woman? Over thERE! Lynch her! They're: They are. They're going to massacre me for caring about grammar. :D :D Hugs Cosy Can you do a similar guide for Been and Being they get me very time !!
Greybeard Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by metalman And most of these can be replaced by am too e.g. you'm, they'm. But if you ask me it's still OK to talk like Walter Gabriel; just adds to our rustic charm. I'd still sooner hear that than someone from Sheffield saying 'I'll be here while six o'clock'. What's that all about, eh? I'm very fond of rustic charm , and dialect is fine by me. In fact it's essential to preserve it if we can. The 'while versus until' thing has had plenty of airing in the Sheffield dialect thread. BTW a Jagger is a Cornishman and a Janner a Devonian.
threecolours Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 I've not bothered to read all this thread but I'm sure someone will tell me if this has been covered already. The only one I have a problem with is effect and affect. Anyone know a fail-safe way to work out when to use affect and effect? Something about something having an impact on something else means you use effect....or something like that?? I tend to just guess.
ToryCynic Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by threecolours I've not bothered to read all this thread but I'm sure someone will tell me if this has been covered already. The only one I have a problem with is effect and affect. Anyone know a fail-safe way to work out when to use affect and effect? Something about something having an impact on something else means you use effect....or something like that?? I tend to just guess. Affect: The change in the timetable doesen't * affect group A. Effect: Nice effect you're making there with the paper and matches. Alex *= I wouldn't be surprised if "doesen't" would have been replaced with "don't" if other people may have been writing this example...
Phanerothyme Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 I effect affecting an air of efficacy. I also dislike stationary shops - they should always be on the move. "would of/should of" drives me nuts ye is pronounced thee - the 'y' is a corruption of the OE letter "thorn" (pronounced 'th') afaik. But spelling is a load of old hokum anyway for the Queenie Leavises amongst us. Don't remember shakespeare or chaucer or eliot or blake paying too much attention to it.
cosywolf Posted December 3, 2004 Author Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by march Can you do a similar guide for Been and Being they get me very time !! Yep, BEEN: I have been looking at the posts here. I must have been crazy to start this. It has been interesting, though. BEING: I am being silly. You are being serious. They were being sarcastic. Sorry, I'm not up on grammatical explanations this morning, lol. I need more sleep. Cosy
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