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29-12-2006, 18:30   #1
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Hi all

Ages ago someone told me about a company down near West Bar that reconditions alternators on cars. I cant remember the company name though, and wondered if anyone knew of them?

I have a Mitsubishi FTO car, and my alternator is not kicking out enough current to keep my battery topped up. Every three or four weeks, I have to charge the battery up. Getting to be a pain now, so may get the thing reconditioned if possible. I have had other cars where the alternator went completely, needing a full replacement, but this one is still ok, just short on output volts, so I hope its salvageable.

Any ideas as to the company name would be great, or any alternative ones too!

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29-12-2006, 18:36   #2
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Dunno about west bar, but there is a firm down attercliffe called autostart that recon them - it's on the lhs opposite that big indian restaurant on the corner.
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29-12-2006, 18:42   #3
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Hi all

Ages ago someone told me about a company down near West Bar that reconditions alternators on cars. I cant remember the company name though, and wondered if anyone knew of them?

I have a Mitsubishi FTO car, and my alternator is not kicking out enough current to keep my battery topped up. Every three or four weeks, I have to charge the battery up. Getting to be a pain now, so may get the thing reconditioned if possible. I have had other cars where the alternator went completely, needing a full replacement, but this one is still ok, just short on output volts, so I hope its salvageable.

Any ideas as to the company name would be great, or any alternative ones too!

Cheers

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I'd advise getting an alternator check first.

I've had a similar problem, which turned out to be a dying battery, I too first suspected the alternator, but the car bumped when the battery was not turning the engine.
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29-12-2006, 19:14   #4
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chapmans was the place but I dont think it is there any more due to the road works that are ongoing dont know where they moved to but no doubt someone on here will know
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29-12-2006, 20:22   #5
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yes chapmans are still there and it is now easier to find as the new shalesmoor widening has demolished some old buildings and chapmans now face the main road.
nice to see an established business doing well from a road widening scheme.
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29-12-2006, 20:28   #6
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Chapmans is still in business, and it's located across from the Babyworld shop on Shalesmoor. They will take your alternator and recondition it ie. fit new bearings, diode pack, brushes etc and it'll be as good as a new 'un but for a fraction of the price.
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Please bear with me ... I know what you are on about ... but what does FTO stand for?
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Please bear with me ... I know what you are on about ... but what does FTO stand for?
Fresh Touring Origination
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29-12-2006, 20:52   #9
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Aaaah Bless.


Now .... is it a fancy term for an import with some mileage on? .... "grey import"?

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29-12-2006, 21:18   #10
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Now .... it a fancy term for an import with some mileage on?
No, not a fancy term at all. Thats just what they are called. Fresh Touring Origination is the Japanese name as translated into English I believe, as another poster has just mentioned. It is an import though, all of them were, they were not originally available in the UK. Mine is a 1995 model with about 78k on it.

Chapmans is definately the name that was mentioned to me, I remember it now. One thing, if anyone knows - do they remove the alternator from the car for you if they are going to do the job? In other words, do they have automotive technicians there in addition to the staff who do the alternator reconditioning?

Thanks chaps - I knew somebody would be able to help
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29-12-2006, 21:24   #11
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I'd advise getting an alternator check first.

I've had a similar problem, which turned out to be a dying battery, I too first suspected the alternator, but the car bumped when the battery was not turning the engine.
Cheers for the advice Sccsux, but I am pretty sure its the alternator, or something to do with it. The car has a voltmeter in it, and when the engine is running its only reading about 12 volts, maybe just under. It should be reading at least 14 to 15 volts to keep the battery charged. The battery is quite new, about 8 months old. The volt reading of the battery gets lower each day, as if its not being topped up by the alternator. A guy at the shop I bought the battery from, the guy who mentioned Chapmans in fact, did a volt test on the old battery and said the alternator wasnt kicking out enough charge. It was at that battery shop behind the SUFC stadium, on the crossroads, end of John Street. Good shop actually.

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29-12-2006, 21:25   #12
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Dunno about west bar, but there is a firm down attercliffe called autostart that recon them - it's on the lhs opposite that big indian restaurant on the corner.
Ah yeah, I know the place. Close to where I work too. Thanks for that, I may well give them a go !

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29-12-2006, 21:59   #13
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chapmans can test the alternator in the car and tell you within minutes what it is charging and to be honest they are one of the places that dont tell lies just to extract money out of people if it is not the alternator at fault they will tell and then they will find out what other cause it may be
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30-12-2006, 00:37   #14
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there's a good one just off abbeydale road at the lights from the dry cleaners, go down one of the side roads on the right he's good, but forgot the name, but it's right on the end just as you turn in one of those side roads on the right, a residential road but with a mechanics shop on the end. they do them for toyota sports cars, so maybe do for yours. or could be the road going the opposite way from bannerdale road (crossroads with the church and the speed camera), just up there past the old jacobs crackers factory (used to be) then side road on the right one of those has the mechanics shop. roger green??? can't remember, it's def one of those side roads though, and they're residential so you'd never think there'd be a mechanic there. easy to find. a tip given from montys and they're good.

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30-12-2006, 00:46   #15
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chapmans can test the alternator in the car and tell you within minutes what it is charging and to be honest they are one of the places that dont tell lies just to extract money out of people if it is not the alternator at fault they will tell and then they will find out what other cause it may be
You're not wrong on this one !! We've used Chapmans two or three times in the past and they have been excellent. Glad they are still there. They once advised us that it was the battery that needed replacing and another time sorted out the alternator for us. They are a good old fashioned firm who treat customers with respect .
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30-12-2006, 10:05   #16
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there's a good one just off abbeydale road at the lights from the dry cleaners, go down one of the side roads on the right he's good, but forgot the name, but it's right on the end just as you turn in one of those side roads on the right, a residential road but with a mechanics shop on the end. they do them for toyota sports cars, so maybe do for yours. or could be the road going the opposite way from bannerdale road (crossroads with the church and the speed camera), just up there past the old jacobs crackers factory (used to be) then side road on the right one of those has the mechanics shop. roger green??? can't remember, it's def one of those side roads though, and they're residential so you'd never think there'd be a mechanic there. easy to find. a tip given from montys and they're good.
I know the ones you mean - they are called Graysons. They do the work for Montys as you say. I had an 1993 MR2 (still have actually, sat in my driveway for 2 years, never got round to selling it ) and it had two alternator failures. Apparently its a bit of a design fault on them because its positioned in a damp area of the engine bay.
Anyway, the first alternator was a new one at nearly 300 and it lasted just over a year! Just out of warranty! I went back to Graysons and they said it couldnt be repaired, so they fitted a reconditioned one. This wasnt much cheaper really.
I was a bit dissapointed that the new one only lasted such a short period of time. The thing that put me off a bit was on the day I collected the car, they said the alternator looked like it had been left in water for ages. When I asked to see the corrosion on the old one they said "Er, oh - I think its already gone to the scrap man/ recyclers - sorry" It had only been removed that same day! Also, most of these things are reconditioned at some point anyway, they arent totally scrapped.
Just put me off them a little bit!

But thanks for the help chaps anyway!
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30-12-2006, 11:14   #17
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I know the ones you mean - they are called Graysons. They do the work for Montys as you say. I had an 1993 MR2 (still have actually, sat in my driveway for 2 years, never got round to selling it ) and it had two alternator failures. Apparently its a bit of a design fault on them because its positioned in a damp area of the engine bay.
Anyway, the first alternator was a new one at nearly 300 and it lasted just over a year! Just out of warranty! I went back to Graysons and they said it couldnt be repaired, so they fitted a reconditioned one. This wasnt much cheaper really.
I was a bit dissapointed that the new one only lasted such a short period of time. The thing that put me off a bit was on the day I collected the car, they said the alternator looked like it had been left in water for ages. When I asked to see the corrosion on the old one they said "Er, oh - I think its already gone to the scrap man/ recyclers - sorry" It had only been removed that same day! Also, most of these things are reconditioned at some point anyway, they arent totally scrapped.
Just put me off them a little bit!

But thanks for the help chaps anyway!
yeah that doesn't sound so good, whenever I get that kind of experience I steer clear. tick em off the list. anyhow sort of take mechanics in general with a pinch of salt, only way not to get ripped off / jerked around is to have more knowledge than they do, but then we wouldn't use them eh.
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Yeah, definately - you have to have a certain amount of knowledge in order to not get ripped off. I think the trick is to let them have a hint that you aren't a dipstick when you commit to them doing the work. Y'know - drop a few comments in regarding a few technical points that even they might not know about. It usually throws them off a bit, enough for them to not take the risk with ripping you off.

At the end of the day though, there is always a risk. They will usually ring you and tell you something is badly wrong, and rely on you being not there to inspect it in person, and also desperate to get your car back quickly.

I am lucky in the fact that I have a garage that I trust to do basic servicing and repair work. Problem is, when it comes to electrical alternator repairs, they subcontract it out to, you guessed it - Graysons - the place I dont trust !

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01-01-2007, 20:07   #19
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Chapmans is the only place I use these days. Over the years I've used all the ones mentioned on this thread (and some others), no way can they compete with Chapmans. They are honest, reliable, helpful and at a good price. The best bit is they recon your own unit wherever possible, which is usually better than buying a cheap recon elsewhere.

I take quite a few units in for family & friends and have done for a number of years. I've never had to go back with faults etc.
Their repairs last longer than buying a cheapie recon.
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I am still not sure if Chapmans remove the faulty unit from your car, or do you have to have it removed first and take the alternator in to them?

Can anyone advise me on this? If they dont take them out themselves, I will have to arrange for my local garage to do it. Its an alternator that requires an engine mounting being removed I think

There is no space around the engine at all, its all shoe-horned in there! Hehe
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