Councils back ‘One Yorkshire’ devolution plan..(except sheff/roth'm)

How can it be a non-starter?

It's dead Jim. It is an ex devo deal.

How can it be a non-starter? Its the deal that was on the table. It still is.

 

The metro mayor election will still happen in 2018. The Egos seem to be in Doncaster & Barnsley who look to have gambled on Phil Hammond tearing up George Osborne's plans.

 

Unsurprisingly he stuck to the signed agreement. There is no whole Yorkshire plan on the table.

 

Sheffield City Region was defined back in 2004. It comprises of Sheffield, Rotherham, Doncaster, Barnsley, Chesterfield, North East Derbyshire, Bolsover, Derbyshire Dales and Bassetlaw

 

The Sheffield City Region Combined Authority was established in 2014

 

The Devolution deal was agreed in 2015 to release 900 million to the region on condition of an election of a Metro Mayor. Chesterfield and Bassetlaw pulled out. Barnsley and Doncaster initially signed up for it then decided they wanted to be in a that non-existent whole Yorkshire deal

 

Meanwhile: Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford and Wigan had their election and are spending the first of the 900 million on transport infrastructure.

That suggests that there's no reason why we can't have the best of both worlds and go for both.

But that is rarely the case.

Meanwhile: Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford and Wigan had their election and are spending the first of the 900 million on transport infrastructure.

That’s because Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford and Wigan are PROUD to be associated with Mank-chester.

We have the opposite problem; nobody else around here wants to be associated with Sheffield. Except maybe Baaaaaaaaaarnsley

Even the wife-swappers of Dronfield would prefer to be part of the Derbyshires, then South Yaaaaarkshire

Didn't Derbyshire county council do a number on Chesterfield's plan to be part of the club?

HMG's view is that the only deals acceptable are either:

a. South Yorkshire [= B/D/R/S] ; or

b. the so-called Sheffield City Region, i.e. loosely the travel-to-work area [those 4 + Bolsover/Chesterfield/Derbyshire Dales/NEDDC from Derbyshire + Bassetlaw from Nottinghamshire].

So no whole of 'Yorkshire' option, then.

looks like the yorkshire party want the devolution plan to go ahead http://www.yorkshireparty.org.uk/support-yorkshire-devolution-write-to-sajid-javid/ is it time for a new change ?

Was watching the news tonight with articles on Scotland and Northern Ireland it got me thinking about Yorkshire devolution.

Would it be a bad thing? 

From a purely population perpestive of the devolved areas compared to Yorkshire it would seem there is a case just based on that:

Scotland        5.5 million
Wales            3.1 million
Northern Ireland    1.8 million

Yorkshire        5.3 million

(figures from a quick Google, no in depth checking  )

I appreciate there's lot of factors involved but I think that the ability to make local decisions rather than having them foisted upon us by Westminster would be a plus. Let's face it, the Government (any government) is scarcely aware that anyone exists outside of the M25.

The Scottish have chosen to abolish presciption charges and university fees (amongst other things) - why can't we do similar things if we choose to do so?

The advantage of devolution is you can get more money to spend in your area and have it spend on what you want.

The disadvantage is you end up with another layer of administration and bureaucracy, which really shouldn't be needed.

If the government did their job properly in the first place there wouldn't be calls for a Yorkshire devolution, but spending and investment has been so one-sided for many decades it could be the only way?

7 hours ago, geared said:

The advantage of devolution is you can get more money to spend in your area and have it spend on what you want.

The disadvantage is you end up with another layer of administration and bureaucracy, which really shouldn't be needed.

 

If the government did their job properly in the first place there wouldn't be calls for a Yorkshire devolution, but spending and investment has been so one-sided for many decades it could be the only way?

I agree to a point on fairer and more northwards spending.  But are there really that many "calls for yorkshire devolution" or is it just a handful of hardcore, white rose flag wielding folk in Osset beating some drum and chanting they know it all and can do better.     Any idiot can declare that.  Actually putting into practice is a very different thing. 

Frankly, after seeing the ego filled power trips and debacles caused by our City Regional Mayors so far..... full blown devolution would be the last thing I would want.