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08-10-2017, 18:54   #1
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Some of his player selections are baffling to say the least.

Callum McGregor looks a live wire playing for Celtic but can't get a run.

James Forrest who is a skilful fast exciting winger gets dropped after playing well against Slovakia.

And McGinn going forward is a much better player than Darren Fletcher.

Had he been a bit more sensible and played Leigh Griffiths in the earlier games like everyone wanted Scotland would have probably qualified.



He's had his chance,now let someone else have their chance.

Just read this on Twitter.

A bit harsh but I understand his thoughts...


ruined this completely. Incomprehensible substitutions. No McGinn, Forrest or McGregor? Fool.
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08-10-2017, 19:50   #2
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Strahan been poor wherever he's managed.
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08-10-2017, 20:44   #3
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They only had 33 percent possession against a European minnow when their WC campaign was on the line.

Tierney is all left foot playing at right back! When I first heard Strachan had selected him there i just did not see any long term benefit.

Leaving one of Celtic's very best players out in James Forrest when he had a good game against Slovakia is baffling.

Again,Callum McGregor looks a better player than either Darren Fletcher or James Morrison. Certainly a more exciting and creative force.

Many of Strachan's selections are just baffling to say the least.

Scotland for the first time in many years actually have some very good players.

Gordon,Tierney,Robertson,McGregor,Forrest and Griffiths all look class players.

Not much good if most of them are sitting on the bench!

Strachan keeps harping on about opposition being physically bigger than our short players which is just not a relevant criticism. It's football not basketball.

The SFA need to let him go in my opinion.

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TBF name one world class Sottish footballer. Even Wales have one.

You can't make a silk purse out of a load of old pig entrails.
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08-10-2017, 21:59   #5
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TBF name one world class Sottish footballer. Even Wales have one.

You can't make a silk purse out of a load of old pig entrails.
Kenny Dalglish?
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08-10-2017, 22:25   #6
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TBF name one world class Sottish footballer. Even Wales have one.

You can't make a silk purse out of a load of old pig entrails.
Agreed. And have you seen the other teams in contention for the play-offs? Unless they were playing Northern Ireland they were going to get beat anyway.
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09-10-2017, 11:49   #7
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Strachan definitely has to go after reading this utter nonsense! The guy has lost the plot.

Too small - give a break. Think Brazil with Romairo,Bebeto,Carlos etc. And Spain too.


http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41546717
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09-10-2017, 15:32   #8
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Strachan definitely has to go after reading this utter nonsense! The guy has lost the plot.

Too small - give a break. Think Brazil with Romairo,Bebeto,Carlos etc. And Spain too.


http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41546717
You aren't comparing Leigh Griffiths to Romario are you? Or any Scottish player to any of the current Spanish squad?

I'll agree it's a bit of a cop out answer from strachen - the main problem is that they ain't good enough.
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09-10-2017, 15:51   #9
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They aren't world beaters but you don't have to be to qualify for the world cup. They do have some good players and I do wonder about selecting Darren Fletcher; he's never been that brilliant and he's nearly done now.

Anyway, it's the Euros in three years!
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09-10-2017, 16:04   #10
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They aren't world beaters but you don't have to be to qualify for the world cup. They do have some good players and I do wonder about selecting Darren Fletcher; he's never been that brilliant and he's nearly done now.

Anyway, it's the Euros in three years!
Clearly not as england have qualified. Doesnt look like the dutch will and even argentina are struggling. Perhaps they need to be taller!
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09-10-2017, 16:12   #11
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Talking about managers out - i was interviewed for Welsh tv whilst holidaying in Anglesey, about the choice of Coleman as manager after his first game.
I advised as an Englishman to give him time or clone Gareth Bale.
4 years later he's the Welsh messiah.

A fickle lot football supporters.
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09-10-2017, 17:01   #12
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TBF name one world class Sottish footballer. Even Wales have one.

You can't make a silk purse out of a load of old pig entrails.
A bit of a tall order expecting Scotland to have a world class player in their midst. There can only be so many players competing to be in the next world squad to face Mars, even England don't have one and there's no guarantee Bale would be picked either.
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09-10-2017, 17:01   #13
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Earlier in the campaign when he was asked why he. was not selecting Leigh Griffiths.....he mentioned his lack of inches.

Shows what utter crud he talks.

McGregor or Fletcher.......its a no brainer for 95 percent of Scots but Strachan likes to complicate the most obvious.

His selections throughout his tenure have been baffling.

Also,I do not see why Robertson cannot play on the left wing with Tierney behind him.

Tierney can also play as a left sided central defender. But asking a left footer to play right back is not a positive decision.

Its like like asking Danny Rose or Ryan Bertrand to fill in at right back for England.

Strachan is making a complete fool of himself by continually bringing up size.

If Slovenia have an advantage being so tall - why did they finish only third in the group?

Only a fool believes you need to be tall to be a quality player.

If anything,most quality footballers tend to be on the short size.

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Just read the BBC link again......

"We had to pick a team to combat their height and strength," said Strachan, who would not be drawn on his future.


So he selected taller players like Fletcher and Martin.

A better choice would have been McGregor and Forrest.

Reckon they would have given a much better account of themselves against Slovenia with just those two changes.

Southgate should bring in Carrol and Crouch and play a front two!
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09-10-2017, 19:24   #14
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Kenny Dalglish?
I think he may be talking about the present squad Mel, if not then include Denis Law.

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Some of his player selections are baffling to say the least.

Callum McGregor looks a live wire playing for Celtic but can't get a run.

James Forrest who is a skilful fast exciting winger gets dropped after playing well against Slovakia.

And McGinn going forward is a much better player than Darren Fletcher.

Had he been a bit more sensible and played Leigh Griffiths in the earlier games like everyone wanted Scotland would have probably qualified.



He's had his chance,now let someone else have their chance.

Just read this on Twitter.

A bit harsh but I understand his thoughts...


ruined this completely. Incomprehensible substitutions. No McGinn, Forrest or McGregor? Fool.
One of Scotland's next manager options may be David Moyes...!
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09-10-2017, 20:50   #15
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A few more facts from a BBC article.....

Statistics looking at the top 50 teams in the world during 2015 show that world and European champions Spain were the shortest, Scotland second and Portugal, who went on to win Euro 2016, third shortest.

Never let a few inconvenient facts get in the way of a good excuse eh Gordon?


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10-10-2017, 00:31   #16
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TBF name one world class Sottish footballer. Even Wales have one.

You can't make a silk purse out of a load of old pig entrails.
I'd be pushed to name anybody in the Scotland team who'd attract interest from a Championship side.
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10-10-2017, 08:06   #17
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I'd be pushed to name anybody in the Scotland team who'd attract interest from a Championship side.
Incase you've not noticed one team in our area has two players in Scottish squad, one who was only on the bench & one who didn't make it to the bench, and they claim to have the best squad, best midfield etc in the championship!
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10-10-2017, 09:39   #18
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The omission of Leigh Griffiths earlier in the campaign almost certainly cost Scotland a place at the WC.

Selecting Bannan and Fletcher ahead of McGregor and McGinn was another clear mistake.

Dropping James Forrest against Slovenia was another crystal clear mistake.

Here's a good summary,I tend to agree with much of it.






Strachan's contract expires next month and the Scottish FA is expected to take time to consider the next step.



"It's a difficult choice to make; there should be time for reflection. The SFA needs to be making a decision here as well," Stewart told BBC Scotland.



The case for Strachan to stay

Strachan took over almost five years ago and Kris Boyd would like to see him remain.

"There's no question he's the man," said the 34-year-old Kilmarnock striker, who won 18 caps for Scotland.

"There's been an upturn in results and the players all want to play for him. I don't see any players unhappy under Strachan."

The case for Strachan to go

But another former Scotland forward, Steven Thompson, wants a search to start for the nation's ninth manager since the resignation of Craig Brown in 2002.

Brown was in charge when Scotland last featured at a major tournament; the 1998 World Cup in France.

"It's time for him to go," said Thompson, 38. "He's had two campaigns where he's failed to take us to a major finals, which was his remit

'His stubbornness has been a factor'

Stewart admitted being "torn" over Strachan but was critical of the manager's team selections at the start and finish of another fruitless campaign.

"He's a very good manager and he must take huge credit for the turnaround in the campaign," he said.

"But at same time, his stubbornness has been a factor in us not getting to the play-offs.

"He was behind the curve when it came to the striker position. The whole country was saying 'Leigh Griffiths has got to start'.

"It came to Wembley and what seemed like it was going to be his final game and it was like a last throw of the dice.

"We lost but we genuinely looked like a team that could cause problems, whereas against Lithuania and Slovakia we looked a shadow of the side from the start of the previous campaign.

"He eventually succumbed to the collective will of the country and he couldn't ignore the improvement.

"As soon as he put the Celtic core in, that's when fortunes turned."

Injuries deprived Scotland of captain Scott Brown and his fellow Celtic midfielder Stuart Armstrong for the closing double-header.

Scotland captain Scott Brown
Scotland lost just one of the five qualifying games Scott Brown played in
"He didn't go like-for-like and that was a crucial mistake," said Stewart of Strachan's midfield choices against Slovakia and Slovenia.

"Armstrong drops out, you lose energy, drive and athleticism. That has been such a hallmark of the revival, so you try to replace that. It's staring you in the face; John McGinn - that's what his game is all about."

Brown was also absent for the poor start to qualifying before reversing his decision on international retirement.

"Scott Brown was pivotal after his return," said Boyd. "He would have made a big difference in these last two games."

Following the draw in Ljubljana, Strachan made headlines when he spoke of Scotland being "genetically behind", pointing out a disparity in height and strength.

"Nonsensical," was the blunt reaction from Thompson, while Boyd said it was "a deflection" after a painful evening.

Stewart asked: "Was that the reason we haven't qualified? It's nothing to do with small players. Get your best players on the pitch; it's as simple as that."
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It's as plain as a pikestaff that he wants paying off. I reckon his laughable comment about height was designed to be the clincher.

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One of Scotland's next manager options may be David Moyes...!
Not tall enough.
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It's as plain as a pikestaff that he wants paying off. I reckon his laughable comment about height was designed to be the clincher.

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Not tall enough.
Maybe they weren't ginger enough.
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