despritdan   241 #1 Posted December 5, 2017 I cannot see the point of borrowing young, inexperienced players like Blackman and Carter-Vickers. Surely, if we're going to borrow players from Premier League teams, it should be to improve our team, not improve them by letting them learn from their mistakes at our expense. Blackman reminds me of the Ancient Mariner-'he stoppeth on in three' although it's more like one in five and Carter Vickers is making too many mistakes which are costing us goals and points. We have players of our own like Brooks, Thomas, Lundstram and others who haven't played at this level and who are adapting to the Championship; we can't afford to be playing youngsters from other clubs as well. It isn't us who will benefit from the experience that Blackman and Carter-Vickers will gain, but their own clubs. We have our own goalkeepers and central defenders who need to gain experience and they should be playing. If we're going to borrow players, they should be the finished article who can't get regular football at their own clubs but are good enough to make us better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #2 Posted December 5, 2017 I cannot see the point of borrowing young, inexperienced players like Blackman and Carter-Vickers. Surely, if we're going to borrow players from Premier League teams, it should be to improve our team, not improve them by letting them learn from their mistakes at our expense. Blackman reminds me of the Ancient Mariner-'he stoppeth on in three' although it's more like one in five and Carter Vickers is making too many mistakes which are costing us goals and points. We have players of our own like Brooks, Thomas, Lundstram and others who haven't played at this level and who are adapting to the Championship; we can't afford to be playing youngsters from other clubs as well. It isn't us who will benefit from the experience that Blackman and Carter-Vickers will gain, but their own clubs. We have our own goalkeepers and central defenders who need to gain experience and they should be playing. If we're going to borrow players, they should be the finished article who can't get regular football at their own clubs but are good enough to make us better. Â The signings of the two players you mention were hailed as shrewd in these parts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chalga   10 #3 Posted December 5, 2017 The signings of the two players you mention were hailed as shrewd in these parts.  Shrewd they were,got us to the top of the league,it doesn't get shrewder than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SomeNextGuy   10 #4 Posted December 5, 2017 CCV has been very good up until the Fulham game, that seems to have knocked his duck off a bit. Once his confidence is back I'm sure he'll continue to be a valuable player for us.  Blackman won us the game against Brentford, and has been very solid. Is Moore better? Maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #5 Posted December 5, 2017 Shrewd they were,got us to the top of the league,it doesn't get shrewder than that. Â Yeah you don't get a prize for for the 3000 meters after 3 laps though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chalga   10 #6 Posted December 5, 2017 Yeah you don't get a prize for for the 3000 meters after 3 laps though.  We don't need one,we won the games that got us there,that's enough for me,plenty of 3 points,plenty of other teams in this division would be glad of so many wins to get them to first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ridgewalk   97 #7 Posted December 5, 2017 Carter Vickers and Blackman have been part of a successful almost half season.  They looked comfortable at Hillsborough.  Fulham mistake was horrendous but I think Wilders was right to play him afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #8 Posted December 5, 2017 Carter Vickers and Blackman have been part of a successful almost half season. They looked comfortable at Hillsborough.  Fulham mistake was horrendous but I think Wilders was right to play him afterwards.  If you view how they performed in your cup final as a token of their worth fair comment, see where they take you in the second half of the season now teams are adapting to your direct play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
byeo   10 #9 Posted December 6, 2017 I cannot see the point of borrowing young, inexperienced players like Blackman and Carter-Vickers. Surely, if we're going to borrow players from Premier League teams, it should be to improve our team, not improve them by letting them learn from their mistakes at our expense. Blackman reminds me of the Ancient Mariner-'he stoppeth on in three' although it's more like one in five and Carter Vickers is making too many mistakes which are costing us goals and points. We have players of our own like Brooks, Thomas, Lundstram and others who haven't played at this level and who are adapting to the Championship; we can't afford to be playing youngsters from other clubs as well. It isn't us who will benefit from the experience that Blackman and Carter-Vickers will gain, but their own clubs. We have our own goalkeepers and central defenders who need to gain experience and they should be playing. If we're going to borrow players, they should be the finished article who can't get regular football at their own clubs but are good enough to make us better.  Because we can't borrow seasoned experienced players from PL clubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barry-333 Â Â 10 #10 Posted December 6, 2017 CW is being hailed as a players man, who are we to question his very successfull record so far We will carry on collecting 3points on a regular basis and not move far from where we are now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chalga   10 #11 Posted December 6, 2017 If you view how they performed in your cup final as a token of their worth fair comment, see where they take you in the second half of the season now teams are adapting to your direct play.  According to all the noise coming from S6 for months leading up to the new season,they weren't even going to take us anywhere in the first half of the season...........they took us to the top,see how shrewd the signings have been? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #12 Posted December 6, 2017 According to all the noise coming from S6 for months leading up to the new season,they weren't even going to take us anywhere in the first half of the season...........they took us to the top,see how shrewd the signings have been? Â Have a look at my comments on the season prediction thread - I wasn't one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...