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Interesting ideas. Look at the life of "Aggie" Weston:

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_agnus_weston.htm

She was concerned about sailors having nowhere to go ashore except bars and brothels, so opened places for them.

 

HMS Weston-Super-Mare was nicknamed "Aggie on horseback" in satirical honour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_warships_by_nickname

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Young people are skint, they can't afford to indulge and become feckless inebriates like their parents and older siblings did (and still do). A temperance bar would be a good business decision, it would provide a place for them to socialise, and without highly regressive alcohol taxation to consider, one could sell drinks (fruit juice, coffee etc.) for far far less than the price of a pint, and increase the profit margin massively.

 

They'd also be more inclined to go to these venues, as they would be able to socialise with people their own age, pubs nowadays are devoid of young people, they are full of older people. The average age of a customer in my local pub must already be North of 60.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25652991

 

 

 

Young people need a place to socialise, and pubs are not the place to be. They are full of ****** up pensioners who go out, blowing their generous weekly welfare payments and cause trouble.

 

The 'too responsible for their own good, generation', need somewhere to go out and socialise with people their own age.

 

What do you think?

 

If you reckon it's a good idea Chem then why not set one up?

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If you reckon it's a good idea Chem then why not set one up?

 

Because property, rents and grow your own food.

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My, how things go round in circles.

 

Anyone remember 'signing the pledge'? (to forgo all alcoholic beverages) and Temperance Societies that were around after the First World War?

 

My Grandmother, a staunch Methodist, made my Grandad sign it before she'd marry him. He swore it was the making of him, and they were married for 60+ years.

 

I wonder what they'd make of today's binge drinking youth...?

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Lovely and quaint as this place is it is hardly going to appeal to our so called hard done by Yoof is it?

 

McDonalds, Burger Kings and KFCs are where the Yoof hang out these days. Its nothing to do with alcohol or non alcohol its about being part of an image, a set, a gang.

 

Just take a look at any of these places on a Saturday afternoon. Take a look at the car parks of these places in the small hours on a Friday/Thursday night.

 

Its full of the young socialising all biding their time until they can plaster on enough make up or grow enough stubble to convince a landlord they are over 18 and serve them a pint or bottle of WKD.

I was under the impression that he was including people in the 18 - 25 age range. They can certainly drink if they want to, and if they don't there are still plenty of places for them to socialise, including pubs.

 

Anyone who really thinks temperance bars in 2014 will attact anyone under a certain age is out of thier mind. They are a nice little novelty with an old fashioned appeal for a change every now and then. Just like going to a country cottage tea room or an afternoon tea in a posh hotel.

 

However, a viable business to attract the young crowd it aint.

 

 

I don't see what they would be that a coffee shop, cafe or milkshake place isn't already.

 

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My, how things go round in circles.

 

Anyone remember 'signing the pledge'? (to forgo all alcoholic beverages) and Temperance Societies that were around after the First World War?

 

My Grandmother, a staunch Methodist, made my Grandad sign it before she'd marry him. He swore it was the making of him, and they were married for 60+ years.

 

I wonder what they'd make of today's binge drinking youth...?

 

And did he forgo alcohol for his entire life? Or was it just for a few years?

 

My grandparents seemed to like a bit of brandy in their tea or the occasional shot of whisky.

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Compare a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday night in the pub today, to a Sunday, M, Tu, W, Th 10 years ago.

 

Compare a Friday/Saturday night today to one ten years ago.

 

I don't deny the fact that a minority of young people still go out to drink. But they are now a minority of the youth. Young people are drinking less than ever.

 

What's the average age in your local? How has that age changed in the last 10 years?

 

Chem1st were you old enough to go in a pub 10 years ago? genuine question.

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And did he forgo alcohol for his entire life? Or was it just for a few years?

 

My grandparents seemed to like a bit of brand in their tea or the occasional shot of whisky.

 

Never touched a drop. Neither of them did. My Dad is also pretty much teetotal.

 

I, alas, am not...

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What's the unique thing it offers as a temperance bar that you couldn't get in any other cafe or coffee shop already? Without going there, and if I had to guess, I bet it's more of a nostalgia bar, selling soda's that were popular in the 50's and 60's, dandelion and burdock, cream soda, etc...

 

They do traditional soft drinks, it's not just Pepsi, 7up & J2O. Anyway, since they haven't gone bust yet, there's clearly a market for it in Rotherham.

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If there were alcohol free bars, I would be quite likely to reduce my drinking and attend. When I have had the opportunity to visit cannabis cafes and shisha cafes in the past with friends, I've gone, had fun, and not drunk a drop of alcohol.

 

 

So when you went into these cannabis and shisha cafes, did you substitute alcohol with cannabis ?

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I was thinking of the ones we went to as kids,there was one on Woodseats and another near old Abbeydale cinema They had sasparrela,fizzt drinks and exotic ones made of fruit flavours and soda water. there was one called a green godess, which my cousin Roger always refered to as a green gozzer.

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Young people need a place to socialise, and pubs are not the place to be. They are full of ****** up pensioners who go out, blowing their generous weekly welfare payments and cause trouble.

 

Mind your manners -you insulting ....hole.

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TAnyway, since they haven't gone bust yet, there's clearly a market for it in Rotherham.

 

Someone resurrected this, so I looked up the whistle stop sweet shop, mentioned as the temperance bar in Rotherham.

 

Further to the post I quoted here, they have now gone bust, or at least closed.

 

Dissolved on

13 September 2016

 

They only ever filed a single year of financial results and were 12k in the hole at that time.

 

https://companycheck.co.uk/company/09218801/THE-WHISTLE-STOP-SWEET-SHOP-LIMITED/financials

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