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02-09-2018, 22:15   #181
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Well I also have found a 32-bit version here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ferenoslinux/files/

It is PAE enabled and is the 32-bit version of Cinnamon DE - would not run at all in live mode on said Notebook unlike Zorin Lite, but better design in that when booting on a newer desktop, there is an actual GRUB menu option to force PAE - so noobs don't have to figure out to add the 'forcepae -- forcepae' command at boot time. Both Zorin 12.4 and FerenOS come with the Spectre fix built in.
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09-10-2018, 00:13   #182
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Before anyone dives into GNU/Linux please watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoqxphFukTQ

And read this excellent article:

https://www.linux.com/learn/how-inst...fi-secure-boot - in particular the section about Windows 10

and lastly, if you want to invest in new GNU/Linux friendly kit:

https://www.entroware.com/store/
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10-10-2018, 17:16   #183
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Can you still get the free Ubuntu disc or are there only downloads? The reason I ask is because I am thinking of putting an SSD into my laptop and I do not fancy paying for any windows products.
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10-10-2018, 21:16   #184
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Can you still get the free Ubuntu disc or are there only downloads? The reason I ask is because I am thinking of putting an SSD into my laptop and I do not fancy paying for any windows products.
Hi Kidorry,

Here is your answer (sort of):

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/...4-usb-official

According to the article only LTS releases still available on DVD, but don't know if that is changed to USB only now as most machines these days can do it and it lends to a faster install than an optical drive, all else being considered.

[Update: No they don't provide disks or USBs any more: https://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17]

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11-10-2018, 08:50   #185
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Cheers for that. I have a Ubuntu and a kubuntu 8.04 on disc. Could I install one of these into the laptop and would they update themselves to the more recent versions?
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11-10-2018, 13:48   #186
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Here's why you shouldn't:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3173...ux-kernel.html

http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/05/10/...on-may-9-2013/

I would download any Ubuntu/fork based on 18.04 - if low powered then you would be better going for SolydX community edition (currently version 9) or Antix17 - both of these don't have Physical Address Extension support (Intel processors) and the latter runs with only 256 Mb RAM so will perform well if you have anything with more than that in it the notebooks.
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11-10-2018, 15:54   #187
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Here's why you shouldn't:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3173...ux-kernel.html

http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/05/10/...on-may-9-2013/

I would download any Ubuntu/fork based on 18.04 - if low powered then you would be better going for SolydX community edition (currently version 9) or Antix17 - both of these don't have Physical Address Extension support (Intel processors) and the latter runs with only 256 Mb RAM so will perform well if you have anything with more than that in it the notebooks.
Cheers for that and it looks as though I will bin the discs and buy the U.S.B.
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11-10-2018, 17:08   #188
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Hi kidorry you missed my update. They stopped doing that too!
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11-10-2018, 17:15   #189
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I have just sent for a Linux puppy disc to try on a old Dell Latitude D505 a laptop that is built like a tank ,any one think the disc will work?.
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11-10-2018, 18:46   #190
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Can you be more specific as to release number?
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11-10-2018, 19:13   #191
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Can you be more specific as to release number?
a Xinialpup 32 bit the ebay add states it is for older computers.
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11-10-2018, 23:00   #192
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Hi Albert, suggest you use this software:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/sys...loads/coreinfo

to establish if your CPU supports PAE. Xenial pup means it will be based on Ubuntu 16.04 and all versions of Ubuntu from 12.04 up have PAE enabled kernels. If your processor does not support PAE it may not run. Haven't been able to establish if Xenial pup is PAE enabled.

This article may help but no guarantees.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE

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12-10-2018, 07:38   #193
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I put Linux Mint on some older hardware and it ran ok. It was on a 2011/12 Intel Atom D2700. I'd downloaded the OS for a Z87 test machine I have so it was the latest x64 release. Maybe the 32bit would run better?
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12-10-2018, 18:11   #194
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I put Linux Mint on some older hardware and it ran ok. It was on a 2011/12 Intel Atom D2700. I'd downloaded the OS for a Z87 test machine I have so it was the latest x64 release. Maybe the 32bit would run better?
Hi zach,

I think this article/thread may shed some light?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...00-cedar-trail
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12-10-2018, 19:49   #195
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Hi swarfendor43

I ended up on a wiki page after following links from the linux mint site. As your link says, it has the capability if enabled... or that's the way I read it.

As it's an older machine I had a good read on which version and I think I'll try x64 but MATE or Xfce. Depending on the results, I may then go x86. It will never be a power house but worth a bit of trial and error time.

Mint is up and running well on the Z87/i5/16GB/750ti. A few niggles during the setup but nothing serious. All my usual software found and installed ok and it's now using the shares from the Windows server. I don't think it will become my main OS but it's good to see other options and how it's got much better in the last few years.
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12-10-2018, 22:40   #196
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If it is dual-boot then you could run that sysinternals software I recommended to Albert smith:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/sys...loads/coreinfo
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14-10-2018, 08:51   #197
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Well I have been running the puppy disk on my old dell for 12 hours and all that is happening is that lots of downloads that need prompting keep on popping up they have read outs such as PUPPY LINUX 7.1 5 or 7.1 3 and so on but no sign of any start up page .
Oh and I got a photo of a puppy , have I bought one.
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14-10-2018, 11:36   #198
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Out of curiosity, where did you purchase the disk from? Also do you have the original windows disks that came with the Dell? You could download that sysinternals program to your current machine then copy it across to the old windows to run and see what the processor capabilities are.
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14-10-2018, 11:46   #199
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Out of curiosity, where did you purchase the disk from? Also do you have the original windows disks that came with the Dell? You could download that sysinternals program to your current machine then copy it across to the old windows to run and see what the processor capabilities are.
I just purchased the disk from Ebay .
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14-10-2018, 15:31   #200
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Hi Albert,

Just found this which may shed some light on the matter as I do not know the full specs of your Dell notebook:


"To run this Linux distro, you can use quite the meager hardware. For instance, the minimum requirements are a 1GHz processor and a mere 768MB of RAM! The Puppylinux team recommends at least a 1.6GHz CPU and 1GB of memory for the best experience, however."

Taken from here: https://betanews.com/2017/12/05/pupp...-75-xenialpup/
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