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More killed than born in Africa...that's not sustainable

 

Wouldn't want to point the finger specifically at the growing middle classes in the far east, but they do seem to have a bizarre desire for ground up rhino horn (made from exactly the same material as fingernails), ivory, dried seahorses, pangolins etc

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More killed than born in Africa...that's not sustainable

 

Wouldn't want to point the finger specifically at the growing middle classes in the far east, but they do seem to have a bizarre desire for ground up rhino horn (made from exactly the same material as fingernails), ivory, dried seahorses, pangolins etc

 

We've done it in the past, there's a picture I saw online from a major Sheffield cutlery firm showing their ivory room - I guess it dated back to the 50s or 60s. But we learnt that these animals will disappear, I don't understand why those in the Far East don't.

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Mugabe is right! (pains me to say so)

The number of humans is increasing, and their "footprint" in resources and land area increases even faster.

No government (apart from China) is willing to curb the growth of its people; even European lands with less then "break even" reproductive rates are growing by immigration.

No African country can afford to hand over a large area to wildlife and receive no financial benefit.

What village headman can refuse a young couple the right to clear a patch of land to start a new home? If he allows it, they reduce the wildlife range; if he forbids, they move to a town, and maybe the man comes back as a poacher.

 

If WE want wildlife, WE should "rent" some space for them. This may mean outbidding the cattle ranchers, forest loggers, mineral extractors. And it mat mean helping the local people to have jobs and homes.

 

Development curbs population growth. As the poorer nations develop, as they have been doing at an impressive rate recently, the problem will correct itself.

Attempting to organise the world by grand design always makes things worse.

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Development curbs population growth. As the poorer nations develop, as they have been doing at an impressive rate recently, the problem will correct itself.

Attempting to organise the world by grand design always makes things worse.

 

Our population is growing. Are there many countries whose population is decreasing?

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Our population is growing. Are there many countries whose population is decreasing?

 

Our population is being maintained by immigration. Our reproduction rate such that it would drop otherwise. So will it be with the poorer nations as they develop. This will also resolve the contentious migration issues as well if we're patient enough.

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unfortunately everyone is scared of china's economic muscle and the tourist benefits of people visiting the game parks of Africa, wont balance it out, the only way is to create a massive breeding programme in the west.

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Does it matter?

 

We could get some nice friesian cows grazing on that land, when we have free trade.

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We could get some nice friesian cows grazing on that land, when we have free trade.

 

Do we eat rhino?

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Do we eat rhino?

 

I would be surprised if the local tribes turn down any meat.

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