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27-11-2005, 21:41   #1
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Now that the insides of the of that building on Fargate have been demolished, they've revealed an old advert painted onto the wall of the Yorkshire Bank Building.

Its rather faded, and I can't make it out. Its seems to say:

_ _ E M P E R N M _ _ _ _ _
_ _ S T A U _ _ _
S H E F F I E L D

I could be wrong about the number of letters.

Can anyone read what it says? I took a photo:

http://www.g7smy.myby.co.uk/oldadvert.jpg (3.2Mb)

Its as it came out of the camera.

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27-11-2005, 22:05   #2
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I put it in Paintshop Pro and turned down the brightness, and the top line reads TEMPERANCE BAR and the line below I'm sure is RESTAURANT. This is the back wall of the building on Surrey Street, which belongs or belonged to the Methodist Church, and contained among other things Tuckwoods restaurant, which for many years could not serve alcohol because the church did not allow it. So I think you must have an old advert for Tuckwoods.

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27-11-2005, 23:16   #3
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The 1927 to 1940 directory list THE ALBANY TEMPERANCE HOTEL, ONLY AS THE ALBANY HOTEL. BY 1951.
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28-11-2005, 09:30   #4
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Hi Hutch
I've had another look,and there's room for 'Hotel'rather than 'Bar', and it looks more like it and makes more sense, so I'll go with the Albany too.
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28-11-2005, 12:33   #5
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SOME VERY GOOD PICS ON[ PICTURE SHEFFIELD ] UNDER ALBANY HOTEL. THAT SIGN WRITING MUST BE FROM AROUND 1890'S ?
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28-11-2005, 13:39   #6
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28-11-2005, 14:02   #7
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Thanks for the replies, all is now clear.

Spook, in the photo below, Yorkshire bank is straight ahead, with the curved front, behind the pointy thing. Its the building to the left thats been hollowed out.

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-...f.refno=s15657

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28-11-2005, 19:24   #8
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Hi Hutch
I've had another look,and there's room for 'Hotel'rather than 'Bar', and it looks more like it and makes more sense, so I'll go with the Albany too.


It looks more like "HOSTAL" to me
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28-11-2005, 22:43   #9
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hey, this is like COUNTDOWN!

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29-11-2005, 00:20   #10
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that great i wanna know more
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29-11-2005, 06:20   #11
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There's old adverts like this in a lot of places. The end of the terrace between Neill Road and Eastwood Road off Ecclesall Road is a case in point.
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29-11-2005, 06:48   #12
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The gable end of the White Lion at Heely it another you can see if you're coming in from the south if I remember rightly.
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29-11-2005, 06:51   #13
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It looks more like "HOSTAL" to me
could be the old fashioned term Hostelry
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29-11-2005, 08:30   #14
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The second line starts ABSTAIN____ something.

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29-11-2005, 09:04   #15
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From the Sheffield Local Register, a digest of local news stories:

18 Jan 1888
Yorkshire Penny Bank and Temperance Hall in Fargate. Foundation stone laid.

2 Oct 1889
The Albany Temperance Hotel, Fargate, opened.

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29-11-2005, 11:14   #16
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The second line starts ABSTAIN____ something.

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I see what you mean Hugh, but with the brightness adjusted I'd say that's definitely an E not a B, after the A its a U disappearing into the stain, and the lettering continues after the dark stain with an A AND 2 MORE LETTERS, spaced as it would be for RESTAURANT.(Don't you love this Forum, we get deep into the things that really matter!)
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29-11-2005, 12:28   #17
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I wonder how much luck you would have if you set up a temperance bar nowadays.

Can't see the kids going for it myself.
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29-11-2005, 14:34   #18
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I see what you mean Hugh, but with the brightness adjusted I'd say that's definitely an E not a B, after the A its a U disappearing into the stain, and the lettering continues after the dark stain with an A AND 2 MORE LETTERS, spaced as it would be for RESTAURANT.(Don't you love this Forum, we get deep into the things that really matter!)
I'm coming round to your view I think , especially as White's 1901 Directory calls it 'Albany Temperance Hotel & Restaurant' (Miss AH Foster manageress). Still looks like a 'B' though (and I have also been playing with the brightness and contrast)

Googling finds a couple of other 'Albany temperance Hotels'. I wonder if the Duke of Albany (youngest son of Queen Victoria) was into temperance ?!


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29-11-2005, 18:27   #19
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is that shop going to be h and m or something at least they have kept the facade..but what the rest of it does who knows
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30-11-2005, 16:59   #20
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How great are you lot in deciphering that message.
Its been bugging me for about 3 weeks and i was resigned to never knowing. This is the reason I'll keep coming back to Sheffield Forum. Well Done!
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