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21-05-2003, 10:08   #21
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Does anyone remember the massive hole that opened up on the Park Square Roundabout island about 10-15 years ago? Apparantly this happened because an old mine shaft under the roundabout hadn't been filled in correctly.

Still amazes me that there's all these funky things under the ground that we never hear of. I'd kinda convinced myself that the stories of the Castle remains under the Fish Market were something I'd dreamt up until doing an internet search on it a few months back.
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25-05-2003, 00:22   #22
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I'm told that when they were digging the hole in the road some of these forgotten tunnels were inadvertently broken into. I'm sure I've read somewhere that a local reporter at the time went into them. Was he from the Star?

it is highly likely that many of these tunnels do indeed exist, but it is not often in the interests of the owners of the properties where they lead to admit to them. Imagine if it were suddenly common knowledge that a tunnel came up in the cellar of a bank for example!

If you want to get a feeling of what the tunnels were probably like, you could do a lot worse than take a trip to Nottingham and visit the caves which are now hidden under a shopping centre. It's not exactly the same thing, but it's close in parts.

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25-05-2003, 08:25   #23
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Interesting site about the old cold war tunnels under Manchester:

http://www.cybertrn.demon.co.uk/guardian/construction.htm
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26-05-2003, 19:36   #24
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There are some fantastic tunnels under Nottingham. One of the ghost walks actually takes you down into them.

http://www.nottinghamhistory.co.uk/local/caves.htm

There were also some tunnels found in Woodhouse a few years ago when they were building a new housing development off Furnace Lane.
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04-06-2003, 17:03   #25
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I've just come into possession of a letter in the Star (02/07/9 that is all about the Park tunnels. This gentleman asserts that as a lad he and his mates used to play in some tunnels (entrance on Skye Edge) that led to Manor lodge (where they were barred and gated). He reckons the entrance was a 'vast hole' on Skye Edge, so I'm presuming that at least the hole has been filled in. Apparently they found war munitions and Moony gang coins in there, which they sold to the ragman. But if there really was a gate and bars at the Manor Lodge end, someone must know it's there...we've had the place crawling with archeologists before now.

Curiouser and curiouser...
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04-06-2003, 19:33   #26
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There are tunnels from Manor to the Queens Head, but apparently they are now blocked. They also ran from the castle.
Castle markets run walks like that, get in touch!
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04-06-2003, 19:36   #27
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Hi junade what do you mean the Castle Market do walks? you mean they have access to the tunnels and let the public down there?
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04-06-2003, 21:57   #28
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Hi,

missed this one I don't know why?? I'll come if we can get access.

I have a snoop finding about the location of the manor entrance. The Sheff, Medaevil re-enactment society do their practises up at the Manor sometime, so we shall see what is what.

The tunnels date back to at least the 15th century and are as many have mentioned so far connected with Manor Castle.

It isn't unusual to have tunnels and such with the castles. Monk Bretton Priory in Barnsley is said to have tunnels that link up with another church in Wakefield :shock: A quick escape route for the monk should they be attacked.


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05-06-2003, 10:22   #29
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Junade,
It's a nice thought, and it has been fairly certainly ascertained that there were tunnels to and from these buildings, but that they most probably did not run from town to the Manor, as geographically there are some major problems with that theory. If you definitely know differently, then please please show me irrefutable proof (i.e. photos or the tunnels themselves or Council documents - I've heard the stories and read the articles already, no offense ), as I've been chewing on this problem for a while now
If you can get tunnel tours, then you will be a popular person, as a lot of us on this topic are itching to see some of the tunnels. And I for one would like to know the definitive answer(s) to this niggly subject

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05-06-2003, 15:20   #30
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Here is some more from my hubby.

One of the entrances is located at Wicker arches. Large door. You used to be able to access them from there. Apparently though if you open the large door there you will find a brick wall now.

He reckons there are three 'layers' of tunnels. The newest ones near the city floor are fairly recent, possible associated with a netweork of airraid shelters.
The second layer is the tunnels associated with the castle and then there is a new super layer beneath these, which is suposed to be nuclear bunkers :shock: . Miles and miles of the things should there ever be a nuclear attack, we are sorted.

These nuclear tunnels are supposed to be accessed by the other layers which is why Sheffield council wouldn't officially give anyone access.

Don't know how true the layers are.

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05-06-2003, 15:26   #31
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Someone once told me that there were/are tunnels that run to the Carbrook Inn (near the Arena). Also I was in Halifax Hall last week, which is near Endcliffe Park, and there was some blurb on the history of the buildings which included about tunnels which ran to Town Hall.
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05-06-2003, 15:41   #32
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I was in Nottingham yesterday and spotted this place.

http://www.aboutbritain.com/CavesOfNottingham.htm
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05-06-2003, 17:36   #33
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There is a group/club called Subterranea Brittanica who search out these old underground workings, tunnels & bunkers etc.

Maybe someone there may be able to help with the quest?

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/

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06-06-2003, 10:15   #34
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What a great name...
It would be interesting to hear what they have to say.
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06-06-2003, 10:18   #35
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I was given this from one of my pagan friends

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Hi

I don't get online much myself these days, good to see everything is
ticking over smoothly.

When the Peace Gardens were excavated in 1998 I was Security manager
and spoke to the Chief Engineer of Sheffield City Council about the
legendary tunnels.

As far as he is concerned, they don't exist, if they did ever then
certainly they would have collapsed by now. Stories of 'brick lined'
tunnels began circulating when Castle Markets were being built, but
what people could see were the old victorian city sewers.

Other excavations in the area are old mining works. My friend Angel
is big on local history and is a key member of the Manor History
Society. She says an extensive thermal imaging survey and soundings
were carried out in the vicinity of Manor Tower in the mid 90s and
there was no evidence of any tunnels there either.

But don't give up. There are stories of Tunnels all over Sheffield
area, including one linking Beauchief Abbey and Norton Church which
is quite laughable but even if you uncover anything about mining
shafts, wells or any other less romantic subterranean delights it's
something.

However, tunnels, unless they are regularly checked and maintained
become dangerous. Old tunnels particularly so, so it's doubtful that
you will be permitted to simply go down there with torches and look
around.

Other good sources of information might be the City Engineers
archives for copies of old sewerage system maps, excavations that are
charted etc., the reference library and staff at Weston Park Museum.

Work still keeps me from being as involved locally as I would like, I
seem to be working 24/7, but I hope to check in here again soon,
Was posted yesterday I think.

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06-06-2003, 10:37   #36
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I think that pretty much settles it then, and I reckon subbrit would have been onto them long ago if they'd existed.

Beauchief Abbey and Norton Church being linked by a tunnel would be extremely impressive, but extremely unlikey!
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06-06-2003, 11:17   #37
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Doh ....Shame about tunnels, If there any it is unlikely we will be able to go down.


There is some sort of old war bunker in Beauchief woods, anybody know anything about this?

The mystery goes on............
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11-06-2003, 15:49   #38
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You need to apply to the military for access to the tunnels.

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11-06-2003, 21:16   #39
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You need to apply to the military for access to the tunnels.

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Which tunnels are you talking about?
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11-06-2003, 22:50   #40
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any of em. They aparently ALL belong to the military now.

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