Vague_Boy   10 #1 Posted January 14, 2012 Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, has moved to challenge accusations that Labour is not credible on the economy by telling the public sector unions that he endorses George Osborne's public sector pay freeze until the end of the parliament, and that he accepts every spending cut being imposed by the Conservatives. LINK  So much for those "ideologically motivated" cuts.  The Tories are trying to whip up a sense of crisis and inevitability to soften the ground and provide cover for what they’ve always wanted to do. Their purely ideological programme is to roll back the state, slash public services and dismantle the welfare state. LINK  I hope "honest" Ed puts that guy straight about the true seriousness of the nations finances.  Oh wait, that was Ed Balls as well.  Has he been taking lessons in vacillation from the Milliband Twins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lucifer   10 #2 Posted January 14, 2012 Ed Balls has the right name for labour. I thought that Bo**cks would be more appropriate We all know that members " in the house " have a good salary and good expenses. I can accept that Torys are from, allegedly, up market backgrounds but how many labour people have any problems that we have. Labour has become hard labout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mj.scuba   10 #3 Posted January 14, 2012 Hmm, when we knew cuts were on the way, it was all about the "vicious right wing Tories". How many of the Labour supporters on here will now denounce this as "vicious right wing Labour"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #4 Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) How many U-turns has Disasterous Dave made over the last few years, not including the Child Benefit saga which he is about to reverse because he's realised he's so unpopular and has to bribe people with cash for votes? Disasterous Dave has made so many U-turns people have lost count.  Oh and BTW, nobody is ever going to change their opinion so don't even try. Edited January 14, 2012 by Mecky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sccsux   10 #5 Posted January 14, 2012 Has he been taking lessons in vacillation from the Milliband Twins?  Nah. He's been taking lessons from the expert (Clegg). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #6 Posted January 14, 2012 if you read the article then it's hardly a u-turn just an acknowledgement that the coalition's mismanagement of the economy has moved the point at which labour will start from to drive our recovery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ms Macbeth   73 #7 Posted January 14, 2012 How many U-turns has Disasterous Dave made over the last few years, not including the Child Benefit saga which he is about to reverse because he's realised he's so unpopular and has to bribe people with cash for votes? Disasterous Dave has made so many U-turns people have lost count. Oh and BTW, nobody is ever going to change their opinion so don't even try.  That's a really worrying statement. People sometimes do change their opinions, especially as/when/if they grow up. They also sometimes change their views through education and personal experience. Some of us even manage to hold views that are not specifically (or blindly) linked to a single political party, but are more about a wider view of what is needed at a given time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Number Six   10 #8 Posted January 14, 2012 Why do we object so much to people admiiting their mistakes and correcting them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cressida   1,553 #9 Posted January 14, 2012 I heard Ed Balls saying he couldn't promise to reverse the cuts (Radio 5Live) as he didn't know what the financial position would be if Labour won the next election - there could be a Coalition between Labour and Lib/Dems next time after all who knows?  A Union official came on afterwards and wasn't too pleased about it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #10 Posted January 14, 2012 That's a really worrying statement. People sometimes do change their opinions, especially as/when/if they grow up. They also sometimes change their views through education and personal experience. Some of us even manage to hold views that are not specifically (or blindly) linked to a single political party, but are more about a wider view of what is needed at a given time.  And you think that idiot is ever likely to change his opinion? He is just trying to score crediblity points for Disaterous Dave in the vain hope that people will switch to his political allegiance. Who is anyone to decide what is needed anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lucifer   10 #11 Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) I heard Ed Balls saying he couldn't promise to reverse the cuts (Radio 5Live) as he didn't know what the financial position would be if Labour won the next election - there could be a Coalition between Labour and Lib/Dems next time after all who knows? A Union official came on afterwards and wasn't too pleased about it!  It's important that , what ever happens, Balls come round and round and round and round. Do the Labour Party, All who seem to have never had" proper Job " can represent anyone other than themselves,. bet they don't worry about the price of beef. Edited January 14, 2012 by Lucifer Been stoking the oven and Jesus, where is he when things get hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna Glypta   10 #12 Posted January 14, 2012 That's a really worrying statement. People sometimes do change their opinions, especially as/when/if they grow up. They also sometimes change their views through education and personal experience. Some of us even manage to hold views that are not specifically (or blindly) linked to a single political party, but are more about a wider view of what is needed at a given time.  I think there are some people who are so indoctrinated and entrenched in their views that nothing would alter their opinion. They are the fools who the politicians love because they know they can kick them in the nuts and still be guaranteed the vote, Sensible people do analyse situations and vote accordingly. I think Ed Balls has finally realised that pretending that the cuts wouldn't have happened under a Labour government won't wash because the only folk who believed him were the one's who he could kick in the nuts anyhow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...