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What has happened to Sheffield night life in city centre, so lame compared to Leeds?

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What has happened to Sheffield night life in city centre, so lame compared to Leeds?

 

What don't you like about it?

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What has happened to Sheffield night life in city centre, so lame compared to Leeds?

 

Have been out several times in Leeds and have yet to find why anyone thinks it is any good. Poncey nonsense. Bad music (apart from one cellar place whose name I don't recall but the booze on offer was very poor).

 

Don't get it.

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Have been out several times in Leeds and have yet to find why anyone thinks it is any good. Poncey nonsense. Bad music (apart from one cellar place whose name I don't recall but the booze on offer was very poor).

 

Don't get it.

 

Same. Decent enough but anyone would think it was like Vegas the way people go on.

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Have been out several times in Leeds and have yet to find why anyone thinks it is any good. Poncey nonsense.

 

I work in Leeds and have done for several years. All of the nightlife / retail stuff round the centre just changes with whatever the latest fad is. So for people who have just discovered "craft beer" and, god forbid, "street food" in the last few years - it must seem amazing.

 

Like you, I agree it's poncey nonsense

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What has happened to Sheffield night life in city centre, so lame compared to Leeds?

 

All our best totty has gone to Leeds instead Holly. That's the problem.

 

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I work in Leeds and have done for several years. All of the nightlife / retail stuff round the centre just changes with whatever the latest fad is. So for people who have just discovered "craft beer" and, god forbid, "street food" in the last few years - it must seem amazing.

 

Like you, I agree it's poncey nonsense

 

"poncey" meaning - "posh" or "upmarket" and making one feel uncomfortable and envious because it's better than what Sheffield has to offer perhaps?

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All our best totty has gone to Leeds instead Holly. That's the problem.

 

---------- Post added 08-07-2017 at 09:27 ----------

 

 

"poncey" meaning - "posh" or "upmarket" and making one feel uncomfortable and envious because it's better than what Sheffield has to offer perhaps?

 

Tattu has just opened in Leeds - http://tattu.co.uk/. Dirty Martini will open in Leeds later on this year http://dirtymartini.uk.com/.

 

And look at what is coming to Leeds, Harrogate, Birmingham and Manchester later on this year or early next year:

 

The Ivy - https://www.the-ivy.co.uk/ - they have outlets in London and are expanding outside of London

 

And coming to Leeds in the next couple of weeks:

 

Neighbourhood Restaurant - http://www.neighbourhoodrestaurant.co.uk/ - there are outlets in Manchester and Liverpool, and a unit is being fitted out on Greek Street in Leeds.

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All our best totty has gone to Leeds instead Holly. That's the problem.

 

---------- Post added 08-07-2017 at 09:27 ----------

 

 

"poncey" meaning - "posh" or "upmarket" and making one feel uncomfortable and envious because it's better than what Sheffield has to offer perhaps?

 

You're not going anywhere upmarket in Leeds mate - nice to pretend though.

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You're not going anywhere upmarket in Leeds mate - nice to pretend though.

Like it or not, having a city centre with bars that are more like what you'd find in Barnsley and Rotherham will hardly bring in people from outside the local area. Leeds has a nighttime economy double the size of Sheffields, and the bars and restaurants you'd get on Park Row and Greek Street, like the Alchemist, Gusto, Lost and Found, and the soon to be Neighbourhood Bar, you'd never see in Sheffield. For starters, Sheffielders would baulk at the prices, then wonder why nothing classy comes to Sheffield. Could you imagine Gaucho opening in Sheffield if people turned up their noses at Bar and Grill which went under a few years ago? As we've seen so many times before, restaurants which charge a little more in Sheffield have closed courtesy of the prevalent "arr much" attitude. No glitz and sticky floors seems to be the way forward in Sheffield and South Yorkshire. No wonder the likes of Leeds, Manchester and York completely blow Sheffield away.

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Like it or not, having a city centre with bars that are more like what you'd find in Barnsley and Rotherham will hardly bring in people from outside the local area. Leeds has a nighttime economy double the size of Sheffields, and the bars and restaurants you'd get on Park Row and Greek Street, like the Alchemist, Gusto, Lost and Found, and the soon to be Neighbourhood Bar, you'd never see in Sheffield. For starters, Sheffielders would baulk at the prices, then wonder why nothing classy comes to Sheffield. Could you imagine Gaucho opening in Sheffield if people turned up their noses at Bar and Grill which went under a few years ago? As we've seen so many times before, restaurants which charge a little more in Sheffield have closed courtesy of the prevalent "arr much" attitude. No glitz and sticky floors seems to be the way forward in Sheffield and South Yorkshire. No wonder the likes of Leeds, Manchester and York completely blow Sheffield away.

 

there's also a plenty of perfectly good places in Sheffield to go out.

 

Yes - there is a larger nighttime economy in Leeds but there'll be plenty of places behind us also.

 

As for these "classy bars" they're not classy at all - they're just designed to make people feel like they are a cut above by going in when they're not at all.

 

Sure if that's what people like no problem - but don't tell people that everywhere else is rubbish cos they don't like the alternative.

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Could not agree more.

 

People like what they like. Taste is a wholly personal thing.

 

People always start wetting their knickers because Leeds is getting some so called "premium" brand that Manchester and London has......and? Jazz it up all you want its still just a chain pub.

 

Its like when certain outlets open up and everyone jumps up and down that Sheffield should get one too. Perhaps a little research would show that most of these things are all owned by the same company. A case in point is the "premium" brands Miller and Carter or Browns. For all their pretension a quick google would show that they are owned by exactly the same company who owns the more looked down upon Toby Carvery and Harvester.

 

There is loads of decent nightlife in Sheffield for those who can be bothered to look beyond merely what they see on West Street. We have plenty of decent bars around. We have several of those so called "premium" bars in the specific places where their footfall demands.We have independent cinemas (long before Leeds had theirs), we have an out of town leisure park filled with all the gaudy neon and giant american style portions you can fill your face with, we have a selection of craft beer and real ale houses, we have a strip of independent ethnic restaurants for those seeking a different cuisine, we have a collection hipster style cafe-bars filled with the beautiful people, we have a mini spitalfields filled with all the wine bar yuppie crowd and we even have our own wannabe Shoreditch area just a quick walk out of town complete with its obligatory shipping containers.

 

What more is lacking?

 

This constant one upmanship against Leeds and Manchester all the time is tiresome.

 

If people have some genuinely substantive criticism of Sheffield nightlife I would like to hear it. However, "its not as good as Leeds" or "they have x brand and we dont" just doesn't cut it.

 

Moaning for moanings sake.

 

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Like it or not, having a city centre with bars that are more like what you'd find in Barnsley and Rotherham will hardly bring in people from outside the local area. Leeds has a nighttime economy double the size of Sheffields, and the bars and restaurants you'd get on Park Row and Greek Street, like the Alchemist, Gusto, Lost and Found, and the soon to be Neighbourhood Bar, you'd never see in Sheffield. For starters, Sheffielders would baulk at the prices, then wonder why nothing classy comes to Sheffield. Could you imagine Gaucho opening in Sheffield if people turned up their noses at Bar and Grill which went under a few years ago? As we've seen so many times before, restaurants which charge a little more in Sheffield have closed courtesy of the prevalent "arr much" attitude. No glitz and sticky floors seems to be the way forward in Sheffield and South Yorkshire. No wonder the likes of Leeds, Manchester and York completely blow Sheffield away.

 

Maybe one could argue that people of Sheffield are more savvy than those of Leeds and Manchester. Perhaps they are not moronic enough to fall for such "trends" and marketing. Nor would they be so stupid to pay excessive london prices for what is basically chain restaurant food.

 

Also if you seriously are going to state that the nightlife in Sheffield is like what you would find in Barnsley and Rotherham you need your head rattling.

Edited by ECCOnoob

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Could not agree more.

 

People like what they like. Taste is a wholly personal thing.

 

People always start wetting their knickers because Leeds is getting some so called "premium" brand that Manchester and London has......and? Jazz it up all you want its still just a chain pub.

 

Its like when certain outlets open up and everyone jumps up and down that Sheffield should get one too. Perhaps a little research would show that most of these things are all owned by the same company. A case in point is the "premium" brands Miller and Carter or Browns. For all their pretension a quick google would show that they are owned by exactly the same company who owns the more looked down upon Toby Carvery and Harvester.

 

There is loads of decent nightlife in Sheffield for those who can be bothered to look beyond merely what they see on West Street. We have plenty of decent bars around. We have several of those so called "premium" bars in the specific places where their footfall demands.We have independent cinemas (long before Leeds had theirs), we have an out of town leisure park filled with all the gaudy neon and giant american style portions you can fill your face with, we have a selection of craft beer and real ale houses, we have a strip of independent ethnic restaurants for those seeking a different cuisine, we have a collection hipster style cafe-bars filled with the beautiful people, we have a mini spitalfields filled with all the wine bar yuppie crowd and we even have our own wannabe Shoreditch area just a quick walk out of town complete with its obligatory shipping containers.

 

What more is lacking?

 

This constant one upmanship against Leeds and Manchester all the time is tiresome.

 

If people have some genuinely substantive criticism of Sheffield nightlife I would like to hear it. However, "its not as good as Leeds" or "they have x brand and we dont" just doesn't cut it.

 

Moaning for moanings sake.

 

---------- Post added 09-07-2017 at 14:03 ----------

 

 

Maybe one could argue that people of Sheffield are more savvy than those of Leeds and Manchester. Perhaps they are not moronic enough to fall for such "trends" and marketing. Nor would they be so stupid to pay excessive london prices for what is basically chain restaurant food.

 

Also if you seriously are going to state that the nightlife in Sheffield is like what you would find in Barnsley and Rotherham you need your head rattling.

There he goes - more of the Leeds bashing. According to ECCOnoob, perhaps every street in every city should be just like West Street. As far as can be seen, Sheffield caters for the student market and little else. It is merely Barnsley on a different scale. Unlike Sheffield, Leeds and Manchester, like London, draw from surrounding areas from 20 or more miles away, they also cater better for those in their 40s and above, and people there realise there are more than just students around. Why shouldn't Leeds have bars like Neighbourhood and the Alchemist, not to mention the Conran restaurants at Trinity and Victoriagate when it can clearly support them, owing to being more prosperous than Sheffield with a gaping GVA figure gap per head of population between the two cities? Even Sheffield's best bars can hardly be described as 'premium', and there certainly won't be an outlet of The Ivy opening in Sheffield, as its certainly not 'two for a tenner' there. Through your eyes, why should people go to say Gaucho when they can go to Wetherspoons instead, and of course your definition of savvy is going to the Bankers Draft instead of a bar like the Neighbourhood Restaurant. The harsh reality is Leeds is years ahead of Sheffield and is likely to remain that way, and no amount of anti-Leeds drivel will alter that.

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