RootsBooster   24 #1 Posted April 25, 2018 Recently I've been walking through town quite regularly in a morning. There's some very bizarre behaviour I've noticed by some cyclists in one very specific place. There's a crossing (shown here) after Shoreham street crosses St. Mary's road, every time I get to this crossing and the lights are red (for road traffic) I am met with one or more cyclists coming from Shoreham street (South) crossing over St.Mary's road, the majority of whom sail straight through the red lights. When it happened this morning and a midle-aged chap on a Brompton passed inches away from me, I kindly informed him it was a red light. "No it's not" he yelled back in reply.  The oddest part of this daily occurrence is that they could easily use the cycle lane on the right (highlighted in green) and avoid breaking the law. They continue to go through the red light though (blue route). Is it some trick of the light, does the morning Sun make the green light look illuminated rather than the red? Or is it just ignorance and laziness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   319 #2 Posted April 25, 2018 The absolute madman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #3 Posted April 25, 2018 The absolute madman  It's men, plural, and women too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #4 Posted April 25, 2018 I'd go with your last sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melv   16 #5 Posted April 25, 2018 //I've noticed by some cyclists// I would say a sizeable minority jump red lights! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #6 Posted April 25, 2018 I can't explain it, although I'm glad you used 'some' :-)  The green line makes no sense though, surely that cycle path on the other side is for bikes coming the other way? To allow them to travel the 'wrong way' on the 1 way street. If you're going to correct way you should use the main carriageway. I've no idea why he'd say "no it's not" though, from streetview it looks like the lights would apply to a cyclist coming off the cycle path.  Then again https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.373755,-1.468105,3a,75y,138.64h,83.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGLqerUD0xP9s0p1TarUnhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656  Looking here at the cyclists coming out of Shoreham Street South, it's possible that they can't even see the lights until they're in a position where it's not safe to stop...  https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3738339,-1.4679977,3a,75y,63.04h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLpm_2LspYHB5n3o2_ANuUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 The lights themselves have filter thingies over them.  But I think you can see the red light https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3735992,-1.4680797,3a,75y,10.96h,74.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stW8B-JDWIVwlZB-GkwDnHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 From the exit of the cycle path, although it's not clear when it would actually be safe to exit that cycle path to continue across...  Possibly the whole thing is just badly though out and isn't working for anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
taxman   12 #7 Posted April 25, 2018 Could it be that the cyclists get a green light on their cycle path which allows them to cross St Marys and go up Shoreham whilst cars are red lighed? It seems the bike lane has it's own individual traffic light here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #8 Posted April 25, 2018 Could it be that the cyclists get a green light on their cycle path which allows them to cross St Marys and go up Shoreham whilst cars are red lighed? It seems the bike lane has it's own individual traffic light here  That's interesting, I'll cross the road and have a look at that tomorrow. Regardless, when they reach the pedestrian crossing, if the light is red they should stop, rather than cycle between crossing pedestrians.  ---------- Post added 25-04-2018 at 15:39 ----------  I can't explain it, although I'm glad you used 'some' :-) The green line makes no sense though, surely that cycle path on the other side is for bikes coming the other way? To allow them to travel the 'wrong way' on the 1 way street. If you're going to correct way you should use the main carriageway. It didn't occur to me that the path might be directional. Looking at the bike symbols on it I'd say you might be right.  I've no idea why he'd say "no it's not" though, from streetview it looks like the lights would apply to a cyclist coming off the cycle path.  Then again https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.373755,-1.468105,3a,75y,138.64h,83.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGLqerUD0xP9s0p1TarUnhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656  Looking here at the cyclists coming out of Shoreham Street South, it's possible that they can't even see the lights until they're in a position where it's not safe to stop...  https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3738339,-1.4679977,3a,75y,63.04h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLpm_2LspYHB5n3o2_ANuUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 The lights themselves have filter thingies over them.  But I think you can see the red light https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3735992,-1.4680797,3a,75y,10.96h,74.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stW8B-JDWIVwlZB-GkwDnHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 From the exit of the cycle path, although it's not clear when it would actually be safe to exit that cycle path to continue across...  Possibly the whole thing is just badly though out and isn't working for anyone.  I'm going to have a look from that point of view tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #9 Posted April 25, 2018 Would it be safe for them to stop at that point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #10 Posted April 25, 2018 Would it be safe for them to stop at that point?  You mean at the red light? Yes, also some cyclists do indeed stop there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #11 Posted April 25, 2018 Could it be that the cyclists get a green light on their cycle path which allows them to cross St Marys and go up Shoreham whilst cars are red lighed? It seems the bike lane has it's own individual traffic light here  According to the OP some cyclists do stop....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   319 #12 Posted April 25, 2018 Could it be that the cyclists get a green light on their cycle path which allows them to cross St Marys and go up Shoreham whilst cars are red lighed? It seems the bike lane has it's own individual traffic light here  That's interesting, I'll cross the road and have a look at that tomorrow. Regardless, when they reach the pedestrian crossing, if the light is red they should stop, rather than cycle between crossing pedestrians.  So on that green light the cyclist could cross the road and then ride right past the crossing and all the people using it on the pavement/cycle path. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...