WageSlave   10 #877 Posted February 23, 2018 Trump now wants to arm teachers with guns to 'take out' the shooters. Where to start with this one ....?  Couldn't agree more.  The armed Deputy at the school certainly didn't do anything, so much for the talk about what you need is a good guy with a gun.  I don't think giving a gun to the 5th grade Maths teacher and expecting them to suddenly turn into Bruce Willis and take out a AR-15 toting killer is the solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #878 Posted February 23, 2018 Yes and failed like those before and after him  I appreciate critical thinking isn’t your strong point, but go read this article from 2013:  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/23/barack-obama-senate-assault-weapons-vote  Obama pushed to ban assault the sale of assault weapons but was defeated by the gun lobby and politicians on both sides of the political divide.  Here are the first two paragraphs. Read it, you might learn summat:  President Barack Obama on Saturday urged Congress to vote on a ban on controversial military-style assault weapons and restrictions on ammunition, despite widespread predictions that such a vote would fail. Since the Newtown school massacre at the end of last year, Obama has been pushing to introduce fresh gun control laws, arguing that a rash of mass shootings has left the American public demanding action. But the effort has faced a withering backlash from gun owners' groups, like the powerful National Rifle Association, and their political allies in both parties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,827 #879 Posted February 23, 2018 I appreciate critical thinking isn’t your strong point, but go read this article from 2013: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/23/barack-obama-senate-assault-weapons-vote  Obama pushed to ban assault the sale of assault weapons but was defeated by the gun lobby and politicians on both sides of the political divide.  Here are the first two paragraphs. Read it, you might learn summat:    So , are assault weapons banned? Did he succeed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #880 Posted February 23, 2018 So , are assault weapons banned? Did he succeed?  you answered that question in your previous post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #881 Posted February 23, 2018 Couldn't agree more. The armed Deputy at the school certainly didn't do anything, so much for the talk about what you need is a good guy with a gun.  I don't think giving a gun to the 5th grade Maths teacher and expecting them to suddenly turn into Bruce Willis and take out a AR-15 toting killer is the solution. Maybe the 5th grade Maths teacher would do something and have the same courage as the football coach, who died shielding pupils at the Florida school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #882 Posted February 23, 2018 Maybe the 5th grade Maths teacher would do something and have the same courage as the football coach, who died shielding pupils at the Florida school.  No, I prefer the Bruce Willis scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,827 #883 Posted February 23, 2018 you answered that question in your previous post.  Yes I did , so why put a link which proves what I said and the comment about critical thinking ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ENG601PM   10 #884 Posted February 23, 2018 Maybe the 5th grade Maths teacher would do something and have the same courage as the football coach, who died shielding pupils at the Florida school.  Yes, give them guns.  61% of Teachers Stressed Out, 58% Say Mental Health Is Not Good in New National Survey  https://www.the74million.org/61-of-teachers-stressed-out-58-say-mental-health-is-not-good-in-new-national-survey/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #885 Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Yes I did , so why put a link which proves what I said and the comment about critical thinking ?  because Obama made an effort to prevent the sale of assault weapons during his presidency. Obama made it a major goal of his second term but was defeated in no small part due to the gun lobby.  The Trumpet has made it clear he will not ban the sale of assault weapons and is happy to receive $millions in support from the gun lobby.  And it’s very disingenuous of you to engage in this example of whataboutery and compare Obama to the Trumpet for not banning the sale of assault weapons, when the contrast between the two Presidents could not be more different. Edited February 23, 2018 by The Joker (See post below) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,827 #886 Posted February 23, 2018 because Obama made an effort to prevent the sale of assault weapons during his presidency. Obama made it a major goal of his second term but was defeated in no small part due to the gun lobby. The Trumpet has made it clear he will not ban the sale of assault weapons and is happy to receive $millions in support from the gun lobby.  And it’s very disingenuous of you to engage in this example of whataboutery and blame Obama for not banning the sale of assault weapons, when the contrast between the two Presidents could not be more different.  Show me where I blamed Obama . I said they all have failed so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #887 Posted February 23, 2018 Show me where I blamed Obama . I said they all have failed so far  Point taken.  I will amend the previous post and change blame to compare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,827 #888 Posted February 23, 2018 Point taken. I will amend the previous post and change blame to compare  No need for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...