Runningman   148 #73 Posted December 17, 2017 But the jury return the verdict, not the police. Would the members of the jury not spot the discrepancies?  The Jury in this instance were in a word, PATHETIC and why because major and very relevant information was never presented in court. 2 members of the Jury asked to be excused, to which the Judge nearly blew his wig off and there wasn't a majority verdict  Going off subject here !  I do wish that folks would have some knowledge of the Justice System, the many failings of the Police and to be aware that not all folks sitting on a Jury are really glad of the job, before getting involved with ' Christmas dinner inside prison ' Believe you me, talking as an individual who has been on Jury Service, some folks are too willing to say ----- this for a lark, I want away as quick as possible. Get on with the verdict and lets get out of here !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
realcockney   10 #74 Posted December 17, 2017 You have an empathy deficit and are not good at joined up thinking.  prisoners by their very nature dont deserve empathy, laws and rules are there for all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
redfox   10 #75 Posted December 17, 2017 But the jury return the verdict, not the police. Would the members of the jury not spot the discrepancies?   You can't spot the discrepancy in something you don't get to see.  Did you miss this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42374431/rape-trial-collapse-student-felt-pure-fear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
stephen 7 Â Â 10 #76 Posted December 18, 2017 Looks as if all the do gooders feathers have been ruffled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mickey finn   12 #77 Posted December 18, 2017 So, who is up for cooking Ian Huntley his Christmas dinner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
max   13 #78 Posted December 18, 2017 Looks as if all the do gooders feathers have been ruffled  Not really, it would appear that it's the hang 'em and flog 'em snowflakes who are getting all steamed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #79 Posted December 18, 2017 Looks as if all the do gooders feathers have been ruffled does that mean theres do badders too? and doesnt that mean they should be in said prison?  ---------- Post added 18-12-2017 at 17:56 ----------  even Abu Hamza wants to come back for christmas dinner http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/abu-hamza-return-to-uk-jail-us-prison-inhuman-and-degrading-imam-finsbury-park-mosque-a8115531.html  ok i lied about the last part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #80 Posted December 18, 2017 Hi, my way of thinking of Prison. Let's make it so horrible (within reason) that the criminals just do not want to be sent there. Surely common sense dictates that Prison with facilities like telly's, Laptops, mobile phones, game rooms, en suite toilet and shower and like HMP Parc in Brigend, South Wales boasts an incredible range of sports facilities.It has a sports hall, complete with climbing wall, tennis court and gym.There are also two 3G all weather, floodlight football pitches where coaches from Cardiff City FC regularly come to train with prisoners. The jail already offers its lags Sky Sports 1. But the prison was threatened with legal action in 2011 over a failure to provide Sky Sports 2 and 3. Hardly a "punishment" to be jailed there is it.  Compared with my idea of justice, bread and water and NONE of the above facilities afforded to the inmates. The criminal might think twice if he was to be incarcerated in such a place.  Angel1 They might think twice in the future, if they are incarcerated in Liverpool prison according to the BBC news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #81 Posted December 18, 2017 They might think twice in the future, if they are incarcerated in Liverpool prison according to the BBC news. and how many still commited crime in say the victorian times when the prison system WAS far stricter, not mentioning execution was still going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #82 Posted December 18, 2017 and how many still commited crime in say the victorian times when the prison system WAS far stricter, not mentioning execution was still going. There should be a fair balance between punishment for committing the crime, which isn't just a prevention of liberty and treating offenders in a way to encourage rehabilitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mafya   247 #83 Posted December 18, 2017 There should be a fair balance between punishment for committing the crime, which isn't just a prevention of liberty and treating offenders in a way to encourage rehabilitation.  What do you suggest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #84 Posted December 18, 2017 What do you suggest? Make them dig big holes and fill them in again during the morning and teach them plumbing in the afternoon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...