Top Cats Hat 10 #2125 Posted August 19, 2018 The Italian minister responsible for infrastructure, a right wing populist named Salvini, is selling the fact that the Genoa bridge collapsed as the fault of the EU. Despite the fact that the bridge and that part of the A10, is owned and run by Autostrada del Italia, a private company which raises tolls to fund the running and maintenance and can spend as much or as little as they choose on that maintenance. It is pretty sick that these people are using this tragedy to score cheap political points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 10 #2126 Posted August 19, 2018 This from Guido, "There is a long list of reasons why Carole Cadwalladr’s claims that Vote Leave “cheated” on their spending during the referendum are wrong. First and foremost, the Remain campaign did exactly the same thing that Cadwalladr is accusing Vote Leave of, only far, far worse. Vote Leave gifted BeLeave £625,000. Yet in the month before the vote the Remainers set up FIVE new campaigns and funnelled a MILLION pounds into them so they could stay under the spending limit:" https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/ I doubt very much there was any illegality there. The leave campaigns on the other hand...... Already found guilty and investigations continuing. And Guido....right wing fruitcake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #2127 Posted August 19, 2018 This from Guido, https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/ You definitely live in a bubble fella. If you think that posting links to crank right wing blogs helps your argument I have news for you. It doesn't! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep 68 #2128 Posted August 19, 2018 You definitely live in a bubble fella. If you think that posting links to crank right wing blogs helps your argument I have news for you. It doesn't! Usual lefty reply, :hihi::hihi::hihi: It does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #2129 Posted August 19, 2018 Usual lefty reply, :hihi::hihi::hihi: It does. ... in that it enforces the view that the vote was flawed... time to scrap it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes 63 #2130 Posted August 19, 2018 Its a bleak day for democracy when for financial reasons £multi-millionaire businessmen use their wealth to try and turn around the democratic decision made by millions of their much poorer electorate. LOL - isn't that what Farage did overturning a previous democratic vote? Oh yes - it was... How short a memory some people have! ---------- Post added 19-08-2018 at 15:48 ---------- This from Guido, "There is a long list of reasons why Carole Cadwalladr’s claims that Vote Leave “cheated” on their spending during the referendum are wrong. First and foremost, the Remain campaign did exactly the same thing that Cadwalladr is accusing Vote Leave of, only far, far worse. Vote Leave gifted BeLeave £625,000. Yet in the month before the vote the Remainers set up FIVE new campaigns and funnelled a MILLION pounds into them so they could stay under the spending limit:" https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/ If both side cheated, it still means that Leave cheated... Which proves that Guido has a random set of ethics and morals - remind anyone of a certain party? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot 10 #2131 Posted August 19, 2018 ... in that it enforces the view that the vote was flawed... time to scrap it If the result of the largest democratic vote ever held in the UK is 'scrapped', as you eloquently put it, millions of angry people will be aware that democracy has died in the UK and what comes next will certainly NOT be economic, political and social stability. Quite the opposite in fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep 68 #2132 Posted August 19, 2018 LOL - isn't that what Farage did overturning a previous democratic vote? Oh yes - it was... How short a memory some people have! ---------- Post added 19-08-2018 at 15:48 ---------- If both side cheated, it still means that Leave cheated... Which proves that Guido has a random set of ethics and morals - remind anyone of a certain party? And yet only the Leave side gets lamblasted, time to have a look at the electoral commissions agenda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #2133 Posted August 19, 2018 And yet only the Leave side gets lamblasted, time to have a look at the electoral commissions agenda. The Electoral Commission's agenda is simply to oversee elections and ensure that they comply with the law in force at the time. Why would you want to have a look at that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep 68 #2134 Posted August 19, 2018 The Electoral Commission's agenda is simply to oversee elections and ensure that they comply with the law in force at the time. Why would you want to have a look at that? Why not, http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-17/vote-leave-fined-and-referred-to-police-for-breaking-electoral-law/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot 10 #2135 Posted August 19, 2018 The Electoral Commission's agenda is simply to oversee elections and ensure that they comply with the law in force at the time. Why would you want to have a look at that? Many of the Electoral Commissioners, including the Chairman, have publicly spoken out against Brexit and called for the result of the referendum to be overturned. Champions of impartiality and democracy the Electoral Commission is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #2136 Posted August 19, 2018 Why not, Because the Electoral Commission simply act based on the law in force at the time of the election. If the various Leave campaigns believe that they should have the right to exceed the campaign spending limits or be exempt from penalties imposed then they should lobby to have the law changed. The Electoral Commission doesn't make the law, it simply enforces it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...