Transgender Weightlifter Controversy

Is this just another argument for letting men, women and trans compete against each other?

 

The trans community claim that 'gender' is just a social construct and that genitals shouldn't dictate your abilities in life.

 

So, a woman's football team taking on a men's football team is fair etc.

Hold that thought

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3609949/Matildas-lose-7-0-Newcastle-Jets-15s-Rio-Olympics-warm-up.html

:hihi:

 

The trans community claim that 'gender' is just a social construct and that genitals shouldn't dictate your abilities in life.

That should be easy to demonstrate then... (That they make this claim).

Hold that thought

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3609949/Matildas-lose-7-0-Newcastle-Jets-15s-Rio-Olympics-warm-up.html

 

:hihi:

That was in my mind when i posted.

It's also like the Australian MP who suggested that female rugby players should compete with men because they have different skills.

:hihi: Halibut shot down in flames again Don't expect an apology

At least the embarrassment was enough to keep him off the thread.

Hold that thought

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3609949/Matildas-lose-7-0-Newcastle-Jets-15s-Rio-Olympics-warm-up.html

 

:hihi:

I got slated when I said women's football is parks at the best,it seems its worse.

That should be easy to demonstrate then... (That they make this claim).

I was going to post links, but when i Googled it, there were too many links to choose from.

I got slated when I said women's football is parks at the best,it seems its worse.

theyd beat Wednesdays current first team, sadly

theyd beat Wednesdays current first team, sadly

:hihi:

theyd beat Wednesdays current first team, sadly

They wouldn't,that shows how bad it is.

I got slated when I said women's football is parks at the best,it seems its worse.

Oh yes. Its much much worse.

Must be the patriarchies fault

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theyd beat Wednesdays current first team, sadly

Wednesday need to bring back Chris Woods and Carlton Palmer.

Ahhh the good ol days.

Back on topic please.

On 08/04/2018 at 21:47, leviathan13 said:

Where do people stand on transgenderism in sport? Seen this today:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/commonwealth-games/43688627

 

'She' claims that she doesn't have an advantage due to reduced testosterone and the fact she's only won silver previously. In 2014 she competed as a man, so surely that will give some advantage when now competing against women.

 

Are hormone levels a good enough excuse to allow something like this, despite what the organisations say?

No, there is far more to it than just testosterone levels. 

Bone density/structure, muscle, heart size and red blood cell production are some of the advantages which remain long after testosterone is eliminated. 

I believe the testosterone level rules are a panicked and hasty measure, put in place to allow transgender participation and avoiding any human rights issues until a better solution is reached.  I think one of the problems in trying to find a better solution is that simply discussing the matter seems to be taboo.

It's incredibly sad (and ironic) that, as a byproduct of the struggle for equality, women are facing another new obstacle.