Halibut   12 #49 Posted August 29, 2017 They were a mixed bunch. Of course they were some unsavoury types in amongst them but the for the most part they were just honest patriotic people. Not Neo Nazi's at all.  Defending scummers, what a surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #50 Posted August 29, 2017 Are you aware that the Antifa group that were at Charlottseville are only sustained by money from George Soros, a man who freely admits he actively worked for the Nazi's in WW2 and isn't even sorry about it?  again wrong, unless you class a child being forced to hand bits of paper around for the jewish council (created by the nazis)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros  but we all know people of a far right leaning like to use lies and half truths to perpetuate their warped views and opinions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on   10 #51 Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) again wrong, unless you class a child being forced to hand bits of paper around for the jewish council (created by the nazis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros  but we all know people of a far right leaning like to use lies and half truths to perpetuate their warped views and opinions  Wrong about what? that George Soros worked for the Nazis in WW2?  Knock yourself out with these, treacle, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=george+soros+interview+1998  This guy PAYS losers to go and rampage on the streets in the name of protest. You need to wise up. Or is he paying you to post on here?  ---------- Post added 29-08-2017 at 18:33 ----------  Defending scummers, what a surprise.  Grown ups are talking, do go away. Edited August 29, 2017 by Hots on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
OPEN BORDERS   10 #52 Posted August 29, 2017 Fascism / Fascist Racism / Racist Nazi Islamophobe  All words overused in recent years and basically mean nothing anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #53 Posted August 29, 2017 Wrong about what? that George Soros worked for the Nazis in WW2?  Knock yourself out with these, treacle, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=george+soros+interview+1998  This guy PAYS losers to go and rampage on the streets in the name of protest. You need to wise up.  you want me to take random youtube videos made by people who have an obvious far right leaning as proof?  ive just read his life story, id much rather believe that ta  ---------- Post added 29-08-2017 at 18:38 ----------  Fascism / Fascist Racism / Racist Nazi Islamophobe  All words overused in recent years and basically mean nothing anymore.  youve been looking in the mirror again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Broakham   10 #54 Posted August 29, 2017 The OP might as well have titled this thread as 'On the rise of Communism' and we would still have had the same discussion about nasty Fascists (the extreme right) and nasty anti-fascists (the extreme left). In truth there is no difference between them, they are all just nasty extremists who think they have the right to impose their ideology on everyone else.  If you forget the simplistic view of the political spectrum as a straight line with a left, a right and a centre and think of it as a clockface with the centre at 12 o'clock, you can move left or right around the circle but eventually you will get to 6 o'clock where you will find Hitler and Stalin accusing each other of being a mass-murdering megalomaniac. Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. They are both brutally repressive totalitarian political ideologies where the ruling elite and their sycophants have all the power, privilege and wealth, whilst the general population do as they are told, or else. Gestapo or KGB ?, Gulag or concentration camp ?, take your pick.  The so-called 'struggle' between Communism and Fascism is not one of 'good versus evil' , it is 'evil versus evil' , much like two criminal gangs fighting over power and territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #55 Posted August 29, 2017 The OP might as well have titled this thread as 'On the rise of Communism' and we would still have had the same discussion about nasty Fascists (the extreme right) and nasty anti-fascists (the extreme left). In truth there is no difference between them, they are all just nasty extremists who think they have the right to impose their ideology on everyone else. If you forget the simplistic view of the political spectrum as a straight line with a left, a right and a centre and think of it as a clockface with the centre at 12 o'clock, you can move left or right around the circle but eventually you will get to 6 o'clock where you will find Hitler and Stalin accusing each other of being a mass-murdering megalomaniac. Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. They are both brutally repressive totalitarian political ideologies where the ruling elite and their sycophants have all the power, privilege and wealth, whilst the general population do as they are told, or else. Gestapo or KGB ?, Gulag or concentration camp ?, take your pick.  The so-called 'struggle' between Communism and Fascism is not one of 'good versus evil' , it is 'evil versus evil' , much like two criminal gangs fighting over power and territory.  Rubbish. There is nothing extreme about being antifascist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on   10 #56 Posted August 29, 2017 you want me to take random youtube videos made by people who have an obvious far right leaning as proof? ive just read his life story, id much rather believe that ta   The videos are interviews he gave in which he talks openly about his past. You dismiss this and give us his Wikipedia article??  Mel seriously mate, wake up and smell the coffee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #57 Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) The videos are interviews he gave in which he talks openly about his past. You dismiss this and give us his Wikipedia article?? Mel seriously mate, wake up and smell the coffee. why dont you just tell me a general gist so i dont have to watch 3 hours of crap just to find maybe one sentence?  another site i found says Allegedly, in 1944, 14-year-old George Soros went to work for the invading Nazis. It is said that until the end of the war in 1945, he worked with a government official, helping him confiscate property from the local Jewish population  which came from http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why  it sort of follows what i said about as a kid being forced to work for the "jewish council" which was created by the nazis  this tells you what the jewish council is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenrat  and it does mention about confiscating valuables like i quoted above Edited August 29, 2017 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on   10 #58 Posted August 29, 2017 Rubbish. There is nothing extreme about being antifascist.  Many of these so called antifascists are actually fascists themselves. Closing down, not just blatant racism, but reasoned alternative points of view that differ from their own, from people such as Ben Shapiro or Nigel Farage for instance, especially with violence, is the very definition of what fascism is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #59 Posted August 29, 2017 Many of these so called antifascists are actually fascists themselves. Closing down, not just blatant racism, but reasoned alternative points of view that differ from their own, from people such as Ben Shapiro or Nigel Farage for instance, especially with violence, is the very definition of what fascism is.  isnt it funny, in your world everybodys bad, jews, anti fascists, but NOT the fascists themselves Oo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hairyloon   10 #60 Posted August 29, 2017 There is little doubt that the UK developed a fascistic form of governance (albeit not at the hands of a dictator, but under Parliamentary scrutiny) during World War II. There is, equally, little doubt that this was justified by the circumstances of the day: the enduring penury of everything, daily bombing raids and the permanent threat of invasion called for a strong regimentation of British society, industry and resources, to prevent British society from falling into chaos, and then -later on- facilitate the management of the war effort...  Yes, and I agree that that was (at least for the most part) probably justified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...