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29-10-2017, 09:59   #1
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As a Rugby fan I don't watch hardly any football, but sitting down with a bacon butty this morning, football was on the box when I turned it on so I watched some of it.

Here are my observations of the so called beautiful game. It is no longer English, it seems to be filled to bursting with foreign players and indeed foreign managers. Surely this must impact on the National team by reducing the number of players the English manager has to choose from. If the top division had say for instance 300 players to choose from, BUT due to foreign players this was reduced down to 100, it must impact on the managers choice of players. So, taking that as fact would it be possible to limit the numbers of non English players on the pitch to say two per side as a maximum, giving the prospective England team players more of a chance to show their skills.

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29-10-2017, 10:03   #2
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Rugby - a casual observation. Can't watch rugby. OK i don't understand it but hoofing it out of play to make progress??
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29-10-2017, 10:27   #3
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The clubs would never agree to it as it dilutes their global reach and brand. The FA can’t enforce it is a restraint of trade, discriminatory and illegal under EU law. In any event if it was the case the top premier league clubs would just form a European super league and run it with their own rules. It is a by product of a global economy and workforce.
More english youngsters should go and play in leagues abroad like their foreign counterparts, but they rarely do.
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29-10-2017, 10:39   #4
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The clubs would never agree to it as it dilutes their global reach and brand. The FA can’t enforce it is a restraint of trade, discriminatory and illegal under EU law. In any event if it was the case the top premier league clubs would just form a European super league and run it with their own rules. It is a by product of a global economy and workforce.
More english youngsters should go and play in leagues abroad like their foreign counterparts, but they rarely do.
It's all about money,the reason foreign players come here is for the payday.
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29-10-2017, 10:46   #5
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It's all about money,the reason foreign players come here is for the payday.
I agree. As would anyone else in any other industry.
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14-11-2017, 14:29   #6
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As a Rugby fan I don't watch hardly any football, but sitting down with a bacon butty this morning, football was on the box when I turned it on so I watched some of it.

Here are my observations of the so called beautiful game. It is no longer English, it seems to be filled to bursting with foreign players and indeed foreign managers. Surely this must impact on the National team by reducing the number of players the English manager has to choose from. If the top division had say for instance 300 players to choose from, BUT due to foreign players this was reduced down to 100, it must impact on the managers choice of players. So, taking that as fact would it be possible to limit the numbers of non English players on the pitch to say two per side as a maximum, giving the prospective England team players more of a chance to show their skills.

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Surely the 100 players would be the best though? I would have to assume that a player in the 200-300 bracket,even though they might be Premier League players, would not be considered good enough for the England team.
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All of Sheffield United’s players are either Irish or British, although Carter- whoisit qualifies as American, although I believe he’s British born

Our one season sun in the Prem was like a circus

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It's all about money,the reason foreign players come here is for the payday.

Wednesday’s manager and back room staff are foreigners as are some players.

British football has lost its soul.
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14-11-2017, 15:26   #8
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This thread is about the national team. Why bring Wednesday and United into it?
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14-11-2017, 16:50   #9
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Strange I thought it was about football in England and that it was no longer an English game. So I added that the Blades had no foreign players to make a point that it was only really at the top level that was chock full with foreign players.

As this is the Sheffield forum and Sheffield has two professional clubs I thought it might be appropriate to bring them into the discussion.

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15-11-2017, 00:18   #10
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Rugby - a casual observation. Can't watch rugby. OK i don't understand it but hoofing it out of play to make progress??
As opposed to "hoofing it out of play" to halt progress?

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As a Rugby fan I don't watch hardly any football, but sitting down with a bacon butty this morning, football was on the box when I turned it on so I watched some of it.

Here are my observations of the so called beautiful game. It is no longer English, it seems to be filled to bursting with foreign players and indeed foreign managers. Surely this must impact on the National team by reducing the number of players the English manager has to choose from. If the top division had say for instance 300 players to choose from, BUT due to foreign players this was reduced down to 100, it must impact on the managers choice of players. So, taking that as fact would it be possible to limit the numbers of non English players on the pitch to say two per side as a maximum, giving the prospective England team players more of a chance to show their skills.

Angel1.
I believe there is a rule in effect which says that all premiership teams must have at least 5 homegrown players in the 25 man pool, or something like that.

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15-11-2017, 00:21   #11
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The national team was rubbish back in the days when the top flight was filled with British Isles pllayers. World football has moved on while we have stagnated and pay average players ridiculous sums before they've achieved anything in the game.
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The national team was rubbish back in the days when the top flight was filled with British Isles pllayers. World football has moved on while we have stagnated and pay average players ridiculous sums before they've achieved anything in the game.
And its still rubbish now.
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15-11-2017, 14:16   #13
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The national team was rubbish back in the days when the top flight was filled with British Isles pllayers. World football has moved on while we have stagnated and pay average players ridiculous sums before they've achieved anything in the game.
Rubbish? 1966? 1990? 1996? After that the Premier League filled with foreign nationals.
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Rubbish? 1966? 1990? 1996? After that the Premier League filled with foreign nationals.
What about 74 and 78 and 94 when we didn't even qualify?
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Sorry but what did we win in 1990 and 1996 again????
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What about 74 and 78 and 94 when we didn't even qualify?
Then I'd better not bring 1950 -in Brazil- into it then, with Stanley Matthews, Tom Finney and Billy Wright etc.

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As a Rugby fan I don't watch hardly any football, but sitting down with a bacon butty this morning, football was on the box when I turned it on so I watched some of it.

Here are my observations of the so called beautiful game. It is no longer English, it seems to be filled to bursting with foreign players and indeed foreign managers. Surely this must impact on the National team by reducing the number of players the English manager has to choose from. If the top division had say for instance 300 players to choose from, BUT due to foreign players this was reduced down to 100, it must impact on the managers choice of players. So, taking that as fact would it be possible to limit the numbers of non English players on the pitch to say two per side as a maximum, giving the prospective England team players more of a chance to show their skills.

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Is this the England rugby team full of "English" players from Fiji etc?
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16-11-2017, 18:56   #18
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Is this the England rugby team full of "English" players from Fiji etc?
Here you are, to gain entry to a National RU team.

"There are three ways a player qualifies to represent a country: through his or her birth, that of parents or grandparents, or residency which requires someone to live in their adopted nation for three successive years."

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17-11-2017, 00:06   #19
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Here you are, to gain entry to a National RU team.

"There are three ways a player qualifies to represent a country: through his or her birth, that of parents or grandparents, or residency which requires someone to live in their adopted nation for three successive years."

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A full three years? Wow!!!!
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Sorry but what did we win in 1990 and 1996 again????
Went out on penalties. Unlucky really, the England squads for those tournaments were good. Same with France 98. France 98 was the last realistic crack of the whip we've had in a tournament in my opinion. England have been dire overall ever since.
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