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Today, 01:03   #3681
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Nope. Quite the opposite.

From what youíve said, you prefer to be lorded over by privately educated toffs.

Now donít forget to doff your cap and bow before your superiors
Goldman Sachs board members will raise a large glass of Dom Perignon and thank all Remain voters for supporting the EU gravy train. Remainers supported the EU which permitted Goldman Sachs to make vast sums of money at the expense of the working class.
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As we signed article 50, they'll have to let us back in and that will be very much on EU terms to the best of my knowledge and that will involve adopting the euro by my reckoning.
Dream on, that will happen.
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Much better to listen to Goldman Sachs? A 'Vampire Squid' of a bank which helped Greece to hide its debt levels so that the country could join the euro. This crippled its economy and put millions of working class people out of work.
Iím not a fan of parasitic banks at all, but many of the problems affecting Greece were self-inflicted, such as unsustainable pensions (90% of final salary at age 55 is it??) and a culture of cash-in-hand tax-dodging (we have a similar problem on this very forum) and which corrupt moron in the Greek government approved the cooking of the books to join the Euro? It must have had significant support from somebody high up in the Greek government, surely?

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Goldman Sachs also wanted the UK to join the Euro...
Didnít Gordon McBroon block this? If so, he will always have a special place in my heart
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Nope. Quite the opposite.

From what youíve said, you prefer to be lorded over by privately educated toffs.

Now donít forget to doff your cap and bow before your superiors
where did I say that? Quote, please.

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Dover and other ports, plus the channel tunnel.

20-30 mile sea crossings plus a tunnel close to tens of millions of people.

Read the report I linked to and you will understand the importance.

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You couldnít make it up could you?

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There is a valid point in arguing that the EU is an agent of neoliberalism. Not going to dispute that.

But the vision of right wing Brexiteers eclipses any of the EU excesses. These people hate the EU not because it helps big business, but because they believe it constrains the corporates.

They want an acceleration of neoliberal policies and globalisation, not to end the process.

Bottom line is they donít care if you end up with no job and no home. They simply couldnít care less.
You're talking about EU road transport, how about ports taking containers and road transport?

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Iím not a fan of parasitic banks at all, but many of the problems affecting Greece were self-inflicted, such as unsustainable pensions (90% of final salary at age 55 is it??) and a culture of cash-in-hand tax-dodging (we have a similar problem on this very forum) and which corrupt moron in the Greek government approved the cooking of the books to join the Euro? It must have had significant support from somebody high up in the Greek government, surely?



Didnít Gordon McBroon block this? If so, he will always have a special place in my heart
They were sound when they joined the EU, oh now I remember the EU fixed it, invaded occupied and not a shot fired and you blame the Greeks.
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Goldman Sachs board members will raise a large glass of Dom Perignon and thank all Remain voters for supporting the EU gravy train. Remainers supported the EU which permitted Goldman Sachs to make vast sums of money at the expense of the working class.
so, now weíre no longer paying £350million to fund the EU gravy train or to pay Goldman Sachsí bar tab, when will my income tax bill drop accordingly ?
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Dream on, that will happen.
You missed the point - we've left the eu. If we have a another referendum and chose to rejoin the eu, they'd have the choice to let us in or not and under what terms.

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you mean like Labour having an open door when others put restrictions when the accession of the Easter counties were invited to join the EU

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BBC is biased just got to see the interviews with David D today, why would anyone in the country want to down our side, I still cannot get my head around why we as a one of the largest Net contributor owe them anything
Because we all planned projects in the eu, long term projects that still need paying for and finishing. Now we won't enjoy the fruits of those projects but that's our fault not the eu. Didn't anyone tell you this before the referendum?
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You missed the point - we've left the eu. If we have a another referendum and chose to rejoin the eu, they'd have the choice to let us in or not and under what terms.
I agree but once bitten, for the Euro to work there would have to be a universal tax, across the EU.
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where did I say that? Quote, please.

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You're talking about EU road transport, how about ports taking containers and road transport?

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They were sound when they joined the EU, oh now I remember the EU fixed it, invaded occupied and not a shot fired and you blame the Greeks.
Iím talking about it because we will still have to do 50% of our trade with the EU for a long time to come. Goods canít be just teleported in and out of the country
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I agree but once bitten, for the Euro to work there would have to be a universal tax, across the EU.
I don't know Phil truth were told. It works of a fashion now, most of the time.
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You missed the point - we've left the eu. If we have a another referendum and chose to rejoin the eu, they'd have the choice to let us in or not and under what terms.

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Because we all planned projects in the eu, long term projects that still need paying for and finishing. Now we won't enjoy the fruits of those projects but that's our fault not the eu. Didn't anyone tell you this before the referendum?
We are committed projects yes, how much real estate do we own over there. We must have at least a fifth of the building they are sitting in. I have not heard anyone saying they are thinking of pulling the plug on funding the current fiscal projects, also we are committed to their inflated pensions. After that what? schemes

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I don't know Phil truth were told. It works of a fashion now, most of the time.
I was a believer in the Euro, then the EU wanted, poorer members that had so different structures to Northern Europeans, then I realised it was a doomed project.

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Iím talking about it because we will still have to do 50% of our trade with the EU for a long time to come. Goods canít be just teleported in and out of the country
Logistically, only time-sensitive goods need to come through the shortest way. A lot of EU transport companies deliver goods from the EU, then ply their trade within the UK., to be honest, I don't believe that there is a need for the number of EU trucks to be in the UK. Its a detriment to the UK trucking industry

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