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11-09-2018, 14:40   #21
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Have the police shut the club down like they do to the others?
i hope not im going to a punk gig there in a couple of months lol
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11-09-2018, 14:54   #22
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'Licence under review' apparently.

Not sure what that means - but I would imagine it will be closed for a little while, then reopen with enhanced security measures in a similar way to other places in Sheffield that have had incidents.
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11-09-2018, 16:25   #23
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https://southyorks.police.uk/find-ou...club-stabbing/

Reopens tomorrow (Weds 12th).
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11-09-2018, 16:37   #24
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Reopens tomorrow (Weds 12th).
That was quick, would have expected a few weeks closed at least.
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11-09-2018, 16:43   #25
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Because before 2010 no-one was stabbed.
Strangely enough before 2010 a lot less people were stabbed!
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11-09-2018, 17:59   #26
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If numbers of police have no bearing on crime perhaps we could get rid of them altogether.
It's been a problem since 1990's...and from 2011 to 2013 it reduced...Not enough resources with or without the 20,000 missing officers. You can't search every single person even if there was an extra 50,000 police officers. People will do bad things and always have done. You need to deal with the root cause of it to tackle the problem/s.

Adding more police will make you feel safer but won't stop knife crime.
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11-09-2018, 18:19   #27
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That was quick, would have expected a few weeks closed at least.
License meetings are important, and can be arranged quick, if everythings agreed easily and quickly during it, they dont have an issue to keep it closed longer
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11-09-2018, 18:54   #28
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It's been a problem since 1990's...and from 2011 to 2013 it reduced...Not enough resources with or without the 20,000 missing officers. You can't search every single person even if there was an extra 50,000 police officers. People will do bad things and always have done. You need to deal with the root cause of it to tackle the problem/s.

Adding more police will make you feel safer but won't stop knife crime.
So what do you attribute the rise in knife crime to then, if the cuts in police funding have no bearing on the matter? Pure coincidence that they coincide?
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11-09-2018, 19:14   #29
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So what do you attribute the rise in knife crime to then, if the cuts in police funding have no bearing on the matter? Pure coincidence that they coincide?
Social media, increase in drug use, also the type of knife user has changed, gone are the days where it was almost all gang related, now your average kid might be carrying one, but to say that the cuts in police has no bearing is insane.
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11-09-2018, 20:21   #30
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Social media, increase in drug use, also the type of knife user has changed, gone are the days where it was almost all gang related, now your average kid might be carrying one, but to say that the cuts in police has no bearing is insane.
Youíre absolutely right.

Itís correct that other factors contribute to knife crime but saying reducing police has no impact is just daft.

For me local policing is whatís needed - not just responsive stuff - but proactive policing from local policemen/women based in a local police station. On the beat and amongst the community.

Which funnily enough we used to have before the police force was reduced and all the little cop shops got sold into the private sector.
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11-09-2018, 20:35   #31
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Social media, increase in drug use, also the type of knife user has changed, gone are the days where it was almost all gang related, now your average kid might be carrying one, but to say that the cuts in police has no bearing is insane.
There are of course many factors....but it beggars belief that people here believe cuts to policing aren't one of them.
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11-09-2018, 20:47   #32
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So looking at some of the posts its obvious we all feel the need for more police, but, what would the effect of that be on knife crime, surely one of the best tools in the police arsenal is stop and search, more police would have no effect unless they were very pro active using stop and search.
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So looking at some of the posts its obvious we all feel the need for more police, but, what would the effect of that be on knife crime, surely one of the best tools in the police arsenal is stop and search, more police would have no effect unless they were very pro active using stop and search.
would you feel more uneasy carrying a knife and passing a copper who may stop you? or carrying one when there is no copper to walk past you?
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would you feel more uneasy carrying a knife and passing a copper who may stop you? or carrying one when there is no copper to walk past you?
Are you asking me if I want more stop and search ?
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Rightly so imo, perpetrators of nasty hate crimes should feel the fool force of the law.....
Where do you draw the line ? One persons "hate crime" ,is another persons " speaking their mind" . So much is covered by this Hate Crime umbrella these days, you can end up with the plod on your back for something as innocent as criticizing someone from a so called "minority".
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11-09-2018, 21:58   #36
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Are you asking me if I want more stop and search ?
They can still stop you anytime anyway if they think youre up to no good, if bobbies are on the beat surely knife carriers would feel more uneasy than not having any bobbies on the beat?
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11-09-2018, 21:59   #37
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There is no crime anymore unless you are a good person, theft and animal cruelty is rejocied by the police, as through video evidence.
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12-09-2018, 01:26   #38
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Are you asking me if I want more stop and search ?
I would definitely be in favour of much more of that sort of thing (including any 'profiling' considered appropriate by the police). Cue lots of harrumphing from the Bleeding Hearts/"Thought Police" though.
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12-09-2018, 01:40   #39
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The police probably spend more time now investigating name calling and abuse because society has decided that there is so much 'hate' crime.
The scum who racially abuse people on line are just as much criminals as those who walk around the streets with knives.

It is the same sense of entitlement that whatever they think comes first and everyone else can go to hell!
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The scum who racially abuse people on line are just as much criminals as those who walk around the streets with knives.

It is the same sense of entitlement that whatever they think comes first and everyone else can go to hell!
Who mentioned racial abuse
Hate crime covers a wide variety of abuse, but the reality is, some people are so melodramatic these days the issues get skewed and they are reporting the slightest bit of offence taken, people even look to be offended. As for comparing calling people names to stabbing people, you need to get a grip, I have had both and I can tell you what's worse. Try getting out from behind that keyboard and experiencing some real life eh
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