phil752   10 #49 Posted January 18, 2018 How about just limiting their benefits? If you're unemployed you won't get any support for another new child, no benefits, no larger housing etc.?  I thought we already had? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Naive   10 #50 Posted January 18, 2018 How about just limiting their benefits? If you're unemployed you won't get any support for another new child, no benefits, no larger housing etc.?  That makes no sense.  Who do you tell that they won’t get any more support for a new child?  What happens if they subsequently get (or lose) a job. Do you change your attitude to a person depending upon their employment status? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dales   10 #51 Posted January 19, 2018 I don't agree with sterilising the poor, however I think in certain circumstances there is an argument for sterilising adults who have had their children permanently taken into the care system due to abuse or the fact that they have a proven record of not being able to adequately care for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
gomgeg   10 #52 Posted January 19, 2018 Killing the rich would also solve that problem? Well thought out, then the poor could pay the taxes to fund your benefits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #53 Posted January 19, 2018 Well thought out, then the poor could pay the taxes to fund your benefits.  The wealth of the rich wouldn't disappear of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #54 Posted January 19, 2018 The answer to the OP is of course, unless you are evil, a resounding no. Any other answer is moral insanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
gomgeg   10 #55 Posted January 19, 2018 The wealth of the rich wouldn't disappear of course. True, but it would eventually when it was put in the hands of the people who didn't know how to invest it for the best returns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #56 Posted January 19, 2018 You can't cure poverty by breeding. Â But you can increase poverty by breeding when you cannot afford to pay for that child yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #57 Posted January 19, 2018 But you can increase poverty by breeding when you cannot afford to pay for that child yourself.   I was going to post how few there were. But it seems there are almost 30%, wow; low compared to other countries though.  https://data.oecd.org/unemp/long-term-unemployment-rate.htm  Maybe that includes pensioners? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Naive   10 #58 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I was going to post how few there were. But it seems there are almost 30%, wow; low compared to other countries though. https://data.oecd.org/unemp/long-term-unemployment-rate.htm  Maybe that includes pensioners?  So 30% of 4% is...?  Seems pretty low to me. Edited January 19, 2018 by Naive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #59 Posted January 20, 2018 I was going to post how few there were. But it seems there are almost 30%, wow; low compared to other countries though. https://data.oecd.org/unemp/long-term-unemployment-rate.htm  Maybe that includes pensioners?  No, it wouldn't  Unemployment is usually measured by national labour force surveys and refers to people reporting that they have worked in gainful employment for less than one hour in the previous week, who are available for work and who have sought employment in the past four weeks.  Is that data showing the % of unemployed who are in fact LONG TERM unemployed, because the headline rate for unemployment is  4.3% https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment  Ah right, on the text of the page you linked The long-term unemployment rate shows the proportion of these long-term unemployed among all unemployed. So that 30% is of the 4.3% (as someone already said). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #60 Posted January 20, 2018 So that 30% is of the 4.3% (as someone already said).  Ah, I was thinking the total numbers of people not working; when we are discussing this group of people that need help because they are stuck at the bottom and breeding like crazy, I assume it includes those on disability that cannot work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...