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12-07-2018, 09:13   #661
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Total electorate 46,500,000

People who voted for Brexit 17,400,000

That leaves 29,100,000.

That is where the figure comes from. Of course that includes a lot of people who didnít vote at all, and we canít assume they were anti brexit, so whilst itís technically correct to say thatís the figure of people who didnít vote for Brexit, it is rather misleading.
So 30,500,000 didn't vote for remain.
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12-07-2018, 10:45   #662
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(Rough figures)

Total electorate 46,500,000

People who voted for Brexit 17,400,000

That leaves 29,100,000.

That is where the figure comes from. Of course that includes a lot of people who didn’t vote at all, and we can’t assume they were anti brexit, so whilst it’s technically correct to say that’s the figure of people who didn’t vote for Brexit, it is rather misleading.
If you didn't vote in the referendum and hadn't a valid reason not to then you can't complain about the outcome. The 30 odd million who could be bothered have that right.

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12-07-2018, 10:52   #663
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'EUROPE'S LEADING IDIOT' Smug European Commission boss Martin Selmayr slammed for gloating tweet celebrating the EU after Englandís heartbreaking World Cup defeat=

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politi...cup-eu-brexit/
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12-07-2018, 10:53   #664
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If you had no valid reason not to vote in referendum or any election then you have nothing to complain about the outcome.
Yes, the millions who were 16 or 17 back then but who are now old enough to vote need to shut up and accept what's coming. You should know your elders know what's best for you.
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12-07-2018, 11:24   #665
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Yes, the millions who were 16 or 17 back then but who are now old enough to vote need to shut up and accept what's coming. You should know your elders know what's best for you.
Just the same as those young who didn't get a chance to vote 1975, your point is ?
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12-07-2018, 11:54   #666
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it is rather misleading.
Misleading how?

I am not and never have tried to claim that everyone who didn't vote were remain supporters. It doesn't really matter whether they were or not.

The government held an advisory referendum in which of the 46 odd million people were eligible to vote. Only 17 odd million of them voted to leave. That is only 39% of those eligible and is certainly not high enough to go forward on and certainly does not represent the will of the people.
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12-07-2018, 12:20   #667
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"Trump 'could threaten to drop transatlantic trade deal unless there is hard Brexit' as PM prepares to woo him with Chiltern lamb and lemon meringue pie at Chequers tomorrow"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html

From the Brexiteers' DM... at least we had a say in the EU ..outside it we're at the vagueries of people like Trump with absolutely no input to their decisions..
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12-07-2018, 12:51   #668
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'EUROPE'S LEADING IDIOT' Smug European Commission boss Martin Selmayr slammed for gloating tweet celebrating the EU after Englandís heartbreaking World Cup defeat=

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politi...cup-eu-brexit/
I'd have more sympathy if we hadn't been so smug over our previous wins and that we blindly assumed it was "coming home".

The way some people have been in mourning today is pathetic. No doubt Elton John will be re-recording Candle In The Wind as we speak.
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12-07-2018, 12:57   #669
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"Trump 'could threaten to drop transatlantic trade deal unless there is hard Brexit' as PM prepares to woo him with Chiltern lamb and lemon meringue pie at Chequers tomorrow"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html

From the Brexiteers' DM... at least we had a say in the EU ..outside it we're at the vagueries of people like Trump with absolutely no input to their decisions..
And that's before we get to trade deals with India and china which will involve many immigrants heading our way. Our "boss" won't be the EU anymore it will be many other "bosses" instead - some nicer than others.
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12-07-2018, 13:13   #670
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Yes, the millions who were 16 or 17 back then but who are now old enough to vote need to shut up and accept what's coming. You should know your elders know what's best for you.
It's nothing to do with your elders know better. Until the voting age is lowered then like you and me who couldn't vote until we were 18 they have to except the outcome of election results. They may not like the outcome but they will have their chance to vote and change things in future elections.
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12-07-2018, 13:14   #671
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It was interesting to hear on the news what President Trump's interpretation of BREXIT is. He believes those who voted to leave the EU wanted out. I think if every poster was honest on here, instead of posting nonsense about what it didn't say on the ballot paper, then we would all agree with President Trump, regardless of the way we personally voted.
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12-07-2018, 13:30   #672
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It was interesting to hear on the news what President Trump's interpretation of BREXIT is. He believes those who voted to leave the EU wanted out. I think if every poster was honest on here, instead of posting nonsense about what it didn't say on the ballot paper, then we would all agree with President Trump, regardless of the way we personally voted.
The honest thing to say would be that no-one who voted had any firm knowledge what leaving would look like in reality.
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12-07-2018, 13:35   #673
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It's nothing to do with your elders know better. Until the voting age is lowered then like you and me who couldn't vote until we were 18 they have to except the outcome of election results. They may not like the outcome but they will have their chance to vote and change things in future elections.
Is there to be a future referendum to rejoin the EU?
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12-07-2018, 13:38   #674
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they have to except the outcome of election results.
This wasn't an election, it was an advisory referendum which showed that 39% of the electorate expressed a desire to leave the EU.
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12-07-2018, 13:38   #675
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It was interesting to hear on the news what President Trump's interpretation of BREXIT is. He believes those who voted to leave the EU wanted out.
Trump does have a perchance for "alternative facts"

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I think if every poster was honest on here, instead of posting nonsense about what it didn't say on the ballot paper, then we would all agree with President Trump, regardless of the way we personally voted.
Not at all, Trump is invariably wrong, on this he is demonstrably so.

Does that honesty also extend to ObergruppenfŁhrer Lockdoctor?

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12-07-2018, 14:31   #676
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what President Trump's interpretation of BREXIT is. He believes those who voted to leave the EU wanted out.
NOBODY knows what those who voted leave were voting for, as different people voted for different reasons. I personally know two people who voted leave purely to aid the demise of the Tory party.

There is no single answer as to what people wanted so some bozo that doesn't read and can't tie his shoe laces certainly doesn't. Remember when the referendum result was announced, Trump had to have it explained to him as he didn't even know that a vote was being held.

Looking at him speaking on the news just now, he doesn't seem to have any real clue what 'the Brexit' is about.
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12-07-2018, 15:14   #677
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Looking at him speaking on the news just now, he doesn't seem to have any real clue what 'the Brexit' is about.
You'd think some people would be outraged about a US president interfering in UK internal affairs..... wouldn't you?
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12-07-2018, 15:29   #678
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And the Russians (weren't they meant to be bankrolling some of the leave campaign?)
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12-07-2018, 15:30   #679
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Is there to be a future referendum to rejoin the EU?
Nobody knows but the 16-17 year olds back in 2016 will get a vote if there is.
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12-07-2018, 16:00   #680
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Nobody knows but the 16-17 year olds back in 2016 will get a vote if there is.
So as there's always a GE every 5 years the sentiment in your post #670 isn't really relevant to the EU referendum..those that were 16-17 year old 2 years ago who will be most affected by the result won't have a say......how fair is that?
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