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23-06-2018, 14:17   #21
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Seems like the new cards may be delayed for a while yet and may not see the light of day till next year.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...price-rumours/
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I think the price drops are in anticipation to the release of Nvidia's new graphics chipset codenamed "Turing" and expected to carry the designation 1180. Rumoured launch is July 2018.
Nah, you wont see them till at least 2019
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23-06-2018, 21:50   #23
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How much do you think 2nd hand 1070, will come down to, i remember in the early 00's getting a 300 hundred pound card for about 90 quid, 18 months after new.
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23-06-2018, 22:05   #24
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How much do you think 2nd hand 1070, will come down to, i remember in the early 00's getting a 300 hundred pound card for about 90 quid, 18 months after new.
Well, up until approx last Feb (when I got mine) the previous Generation (960/970 and 980) Were still in the £100-300 range...
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Nah, you wont see them till at least 2019
Launch date is 20th August it seems. As in this month.
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18-08-2018, 08:08   #26
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Launch date is 20th August it seems. As in this month.
Official reveal is August 20th, Wouldn't think they'd release before September, Unless they do an instant launch at the same time as the reveal...
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18-08-2018, 09:05   #27
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Launch date is 20th August it seems. As in this month.
The cloak and dagger of it all!

I had a quick read on the usual tech news sites and there still seems to be a bit of uncertainty about what and how much. The prices did average out at 699 American zonks but the hardware wasn't clear (on the sites read)

A couple of days should throw a bit more light on the hardware and possible closer numbers on the cost. I doubt I'll be able to run to the 80 range so the mid end might be a option. From what was said, they will come later if Nvidia stick to their usual release plan.
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19-08-2018, 16:01   #28
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So they've gone for 2080 as the new model range, and they still aren't fully revealed and definitely not launched yet.. Aug 19th.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...cs-leak-rumors

They will probably get a full reveal tomorrow though at the Nvidia event.
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so, RTX-2070, 2080, and 2080Ti

Starting at £499 for the 2070, moving up to £999 for 2080Ti

2070 being faster than the current Titan Xp

September 20th release....

8GB on the 2070, and 2080... 11GB on the 2080Ti...
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so, RTX-2070, 2080, and 2080Ti

Starting at £499 for the 2070, moving up to £999 for 2080Ti

2070 being faster than the current Titan Xp

September 20th release....

8GB on the 2070, and 2080... 11GB on the 2080Ti...
That's kind of crazy that the 2070 will outperform the previous generation's flagship card at half the cost.

Over to you AMD....
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21-08-2018, 07:42   #31
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In the terms of gaming, AMD can not compete any more, at least with current price of high end models.
It will be definitely interesting.
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21-08-2018, 07:47   #32
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I got the first email about them today (pre order Scan)

Prices starting at about £715 for the 2080 and £1050 for the Ti

A bit expensive for my budget but it will be an interesting watch as to what they can really do.

https://www.scan.co.uk/shops/nvidia/...graphics-cards

EDIT: A bit odd. On all the cards I looked at, the base clock and boost clock say TBA. You'd think that they would know that by now.

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I got the first email about them today (pre order Scan)

Prices starting at about £715 for the 2080 and £1050 for the Ti

A bit expensive for my budget but it will be an interesting watch as to what they can really do.

https://www.scan.co.uk/shops/nvidia/...graphics-cards

EDIT: A bit odd. On all the cards I looked at, the base clock and boost clock say TBA. You'd think that they would know that by now.
I don't know. Ps4 pro and Xbox one x are around 400 £, and these days, it can deliver almost the same thing, especially on 4k tv
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21-08-2018, 08:10   #34
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I don't know. Ps4 pro and Xbox one x are around 400 £, and these days, it can deliver almost the same thing, especially on 4k tv
Can they though? I thought the 4K output on the consoles were frame rate capped at 30fps.
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I don't know. Ps4 pro and Xbox one x are around 400 £, and these days, it can deliver almost the same thing, especially on 4k tv

They use lots of tricks to get "4k" on consoles... Such as using lower quality textures around the outside of your viewing area, lower than 4K in areas that don't matter, Checkerboard rendering to reduce load, they also don't have as good AA, AF, occlusion, and various others....

They also use dynamic resolution tricks, where if there's lots going on it may reduce it to 2k resolution, then back up to 4k when there's not much happening, it's all done seemlessly and with little to no noticeable impact to the user.

You also have to think, Consoles are designed JUST for that, all PS4's are pretty much the same, where-as PC's there can be so many different configurations of hardware etc...
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These new cards come with a "ray tracing engine". It's something that even the current generation of cards, 1080 Ti couldn't hope to match in real time. Comparing them to consoles is like comparing a Ferrari to a clapped out 2001 Mondeo.

The shots of with and without RT enabled are quite impressive.
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These new cards come with a "ray tracing engine". It's something that even the current generation of cards, 1080 Ti couldn't hope to match in real time. Comparing them to consoles is like comparing a Ferrari to a clapped out 2001 Mondeo.

The shots of with and without RT enabled are quite impressive.
Any graphics engines out there that exploits RT for the new cards to get going on?
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21-08-2018, 22:11   #38
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Still, I am not impressed. Certainly not enough to build decent gaming pc to replace current gaming platform ps4 pro.
I was very impressed by 3dfx cards 20 years ago, I liked GeForce 256, spend almost 2 months salaries on that one back in the day, I absolutely loved it. Radeon 8500, Gf4 ti and all that direct x 8, T&L etc.

I am watching now ray tracing and I don't feel nothing special. It's nice, but there is that "seen it all before feeling".
I think I am gonna skip this one and stick to console gaming for now.
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22-08-2018, 10:13   #39
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Any graphics engines out there that exploits RT for the new cards to get going on?
Haven't googled it, but I expect that nvidia have been working with games developers for the past year at least on making use of the RT functions in the new cards.

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Still, I am not impressed. Certainly not enough to build decent gaming pc to replace current gaming platform ps4 pro.
I was very impressed by 3dfx cards 20 years ago, I liked GeForce 256, spend almost 2 months salaries on that one back in the day, I absolutely loved it. Radeon 8500, Gf4 ti and all that direct x 8, T&L etc.

I am watching now ray tracing and I don't feel nothing special. It's nice, but there is that "seen it all before feeling".
I think I am gonna skip this one and stick to console gaming for now.
You have seen it all before, but only in films. Because RT until now was something that took seconds per frame, or minutes or hours per frame, depending on how complex and how far back in time you go.
To have RT done in real time is a huge leap.

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Broad Game Adoption of Real-Time Ray Tracing
Games that will feature real-time ray tracing include the following, with more to come:

Assetto Corsa Competizione from Kunos Simulazioni/505 Games
Atomic Heart from Mundfish
Battlefield V from EA/DICE
Control from Remedy Entertainment/505 Games
Enlisted from Gaijin Entertainment/Darkflow Software
Justice from NetEase
JX3 from Kingsoft
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries from Piranha Games
Metro Exodus from 4A Games
ProjectDH from Nexon’s devCAT Studio
Shadow of the Tomb Raider from Square Enix/Eidos-Montréal/Crystal Dynamics/Nixxes

Broad Game Adoption of DLSS
Games that will use DLSS include the following, with more to come:

Ark: Survival Evolved from Studio Wildcard
Atomic Heart from Mundfish
Dauntless from Phoenix Labs
Final Fantasy XV from Square Enix
Fractured Lands from Unbroken Studios
Hitman 2 from IO Interactive/Warner Bros.
Islands of Nyne from Define Human Studios
Justice from NetEase
JX3 from Kingsoft
Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries from Piranha Games
PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds from PUBG Corp.
Remnant: From the Ashes from Arc Games
Serious Sam 4: Planet Badass from Croteam/Devolver Digital
Shadow of the Tomb Raider from Square Enix/Eidos-Montréal/Crystal Dynamics/Nixxes
The Forge Arena from Freezing Raccoon Studios
We Happy Few from Compulsion Games / Gearbox


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I used to love Mechwarrior, when it was wireframe!

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce...-technologies/

I might even pay for this latest one!
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