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05-02-2017, 15:36   #1
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Is the writing on the wall for yet another Walkley pub? The freehold is for sale and local rumour has it that it is to be closed and converted into a halfway house.
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05-02-2017, 15:44   #2
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05-02-2017, 16:27   #3
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It would make a nice house.

But, if someone buys it as a freehouse there is scope to make a decent living from it.
The big brew companies have killed some pubs off by the way they milk every last penny out of pubs. The people running them are not going to work all hours for a pittance.
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05-02-2017, 16:31   #4
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Planning application here to convert into house of multiple occupation
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05-02-2017, 19:15   #5
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Only ones that go to the wall are old fashioned traditional pub. Real ale pubs go from strength to strength. Look at Walkley Beer Co, expanding days it is open!
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05-02-2017, 19:32   #6
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Only ones that go to the wall are old fashioned traditional pub. Real ale pubs go from strength to strength. Look at Walkley Beer Co, expanding days it is open!
It would be great if the walkley beer company bought it and kept it going!

It's not a bad price at 195k with living space above. If I had a few quid I might give it a go - still money to be made in pub game with a freehold.
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05-02-2017, 19:56   #7
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It would be great if the walkley beer company bought it and kept it going!

It's not a bad price at 195k with living space above. If I had a few quid I might give it a go - still money to be made in pub game with a freehold.
Totally agree or James from The Blake. How about us Crowd Funding and buying it for the Community?
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05-02-2017, 20:03   #8
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Kits got his hands full with a full time job over Stockport way and the planned new Wednesday / Sunday opening hours at the beer co. Could be the start of another beer empire though . Still with all the blue bee pubs now in a state of flux its an odd time . Even heard a rumour of Closed Shop being run as a community pub
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Kits got his hands full with a full time job over Stockport way and the planned new Wednesday / Sunday opening hours at the beer co. Could be the start of another beer empire though . Still with all the blue bee pubs now in a state of flux its an odd time . Even heard a rumour of Closed Shop being run as a community pub
Why would the closed shop need to change I thought it was doing ok?

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Totally agree or James from The Blake. How about us Crowd Funding and buying it for the Community?
Sounds a great idea.-
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05-02-2017, 20:17   #10
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From what Ive heard Andy is getting out of the pub business so that has put the whole chain in some doubt. Rutland, Old Crown, Closed Shop, Punch Bowl, 3 Tuns . Rutland is a free house, some of the others are Punch.

But yes I agree the Closed Shop is still as busy as ever
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05-02-2017, 20:25   #11
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Ive objected, as I hope other locals will. They didn't even bother to let the landlord know, after all it's only his home.
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05-02-2017, 22:18   #12
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I have also objected. In all honesty, parking is an issue and there is already enough road rage in these parts, Walkley Road corner causes many a scene.
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From what Ive heard Andy is getting out of the pub business so that has put the whole chain in some doubt. Rutland, Old Crown, Closed Shop, Punch Bowl, 3 Tuns . Rutland is a free house, some of the others are Punch.

But yes I agree the Closed Shop is still as busy as ever
Get Chris Bamford and Kate involved I'd say.
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05-02-2017, 23:17   #14
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I have also objected. In all honesty, parking is an issue and there is already enough road rage in these parts, Walkley Road corner causes many a scene.
They'll not reject it on parking. The only way that's staying as a pub is if someone else buys it.

At 195k with living space above to rent out that's gotta be attractive to someone wanting a decent pub.

Near the Blake an walkley beer company - could be great and letting out upstairs would offset part of mortgage / loan.

I'd do it if I had the beans.
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All Walkley residents should object to the planned proposal of a hmo even if you dont use the Firwood cottage. Here is my objection i have posted.

'We as residents and business owners are strongly objecting to yet another halfway house in the area as there is already a hmo just a few doors away from the Firwood (#31 & 31a Whitehouse Rd, for all residents who are unaware) Over the years this halfway house has caused us all on Whitehouse Rd a problem with the occupants.
We have made several complaints/reports to the authorities about the people living in their multiple occupancy residence which over time has included young people, unemployed, paedophiles, drug addicts, criminals etc. It was even been run as a brothel for a while when a prostitute and friends were housed there. We are already in an area with high crime levels and do not need to encourage more criminal activity or persons likely to be involved in criminal activity.

We as a community can not handle losing another public amenity, one of the few remaining public houses in the area, which is currently open, well managed and enjoyed by the community.'

ow.ly/zyAm308GbOa is the link to go to object. The current halfway house has 4 tenants, this new one is set to have 12 bedrooms. This can not happen, don't forget Walkley primary School is just across the road.
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All Walkley residents should object to the planned proposal of a hmo even if you dont use the Firwood cottage. Here is my objection i have posted.

'We as residents and business owners are strongly objecting to yet another halfway house in the area as there is already a hmo just a few doors away from the Firwood (#31 & 31a Whitehouse Rd, for all residents who are unaware) Over the years this halfway house has caused us all on Whitehouse Rd a problem with the occupants.
We have made several complaints/reports to the authorities about the people living in their multiple occupancy residence which over time has included young people, unemployed, paedophiles, drug addicts, criminals etc. It was even been run as a brothel for a while when a prostitute and friends were housed there. We are already in an area with high crime levels and do not need to encourage more criminal activity or persons likely to be involved in criminal activity.

We as a community can not handle losing another public amenity, one of the few remaining public houses in the area, which is currently open, well managed and enjoyed by the community.'

ow.ly/zyAm308GbOa is the link to go to object. The current halfway house has 4 tenants, this new one is set to have 12 bedrooms. This can not happen, don't forget Walkley primary School is just across the road.
I agree. It's up for sale though not sold. Someone needs to make an alternative proposal.

Chris - you're embedded in the area with your business (if you are who I think you are) could a group of businesses / locals get together with ideas / finance and turn this into a positive?
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06-02-2017, 00:05   #17
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Their was an pub opposite the Firwood Cottage the Bell Vue its now flats. Before anyone puts their hands into their pocket you need to view the books to see how trade is now and if it can be improved. One idea could be keep the public bar but turn the rest into flats if their is any land at the back big enough build perhaps an bungalow I'm not familiar this pub to know what is what just ideas.
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From what Ive heard Andy is getting out of the pub business so that has put the whole chain in some doubt. Rutland, Old Crown, Closed Shop, Punch Bowl, 3 Tuns . Rutland is a free house, some of the others are Punch.

But yes I agree the Closed Shop is still as busy as ever
I thought they were all Reet Pub Co. pubs.
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06-02-2017, 11:28   #19
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I thought they were all Reet Pub Co. pubs.
I think the closed shop is still on a Punch tenancy with the arrangement 4 beers from Punch and 4 that the pub can choose themselves (including reet)

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/...gain-1-5573217

Its not listed as such on Punch website although the Old Crown is
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I think the closed shop is still on a Punch tenancy with the arrangement 4 beers from Punch and 4 that the pub can choose themselves (including reet)
That certainly makes sense given what's always on offer on the bar - the middle 4 pumps always contain the likes of Black Sheep / Bombadier / Doombar / Brains etc.
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