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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43398417

 

Facebook has decided that BF is a hate group, and therefore is banned.

 

I've seen arguments that it's the right thing to do, as they are clearly inciting racial hatred, but also contrary arguments that they're just exercising freedom of speech.

 

I'm personally on the former view. I think they're filth, desperate to cause hatred amongst their ranks of mouth breathers.

 

Any views on this?

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About time too. For once Bookyface get things right

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On the one hand, its brilliant. I hate seeing people recirculate their posts as truth.

 

But on the other, does it force them underground where we can't see what they're up to and ridicule them in public? Or are their followers too stupid to use any medium other than Facebook?

 

They certainly won't use the "dark net" because it has the word dark in it!

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They are not smart enough to use the dark net I dont think

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I'm of the opinion that it's a good thing, they spread lies and misinformation to stir up trouble and hatred and they shouldn't be given a platform.

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A precedent has been set

Namely that politicians can pressure internet providers to censor views they don't agree with.

So no problem with Britain First, but who will Yvette Cooper et all decide is going to be banned next?

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A precedent has been set

Namely that politicians can pressure internet providers to censor views they don't agree with.

So no problem with Britain First, but who will Yvette Cooper et all decide is going to be banned next?

 

Which politicians were involved?

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A precedent has been set

Namely that politicians can pressure internet providers to censor views they don't agree with.

So no problem with Britain First, but who will Yvette Cooper et all decide is going to be banned next?

They already set that when they drew up the list of proscribed organisations? we've had that years.

It was mainly pro palastinian and islamic extremists on it for years tho so well done to Britain first and national action for making it.

 

also theres been news about national action videos on youtube not being taken off fast enough this week too.

 

Dont forget the "leaders" of britain first also got jailed recently for inciting hate...just like our hooky friend et al ;)

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This wasnt the UK politicians putting them on a proscribed list. This was FB getting so jacked off with the flood of reports about them that they decided they were going against commuinity standards and they unilaterally booted them

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Which politicians were involved?

 

Try this one, for starters.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/dec/19/mps-press-social-media-firms-over-failure-to-take-down-hate-speech

 

There is co-ordinated pressure in the western world to control social media.

 

In America.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/dec/19/mps-press-social-media-firms-over-failure-to-take-down-hate-speech

 

In Sweden.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/google-under-fire-for-anti-semitic-search-results-in-sweden/

 

In Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/30/germany-approves-plans-to-fine-social-media-firms-up-to-50m

 

Look, there is literally tons of this stuff happening. It is a battle for influence.

Mainstream politicians and the mainstream media both do not have the control and the influence that they used to have. Politicians especially want that control and influence back. This means trying to control what's available on line on Facebook, on Youtube and on Twitter.

 

My kids (late twenties and thirty) rarely buy a newspaper and never watch TV news, the traditional sources of how people are influenced. They get their news from the web. Which up to press is allowing a far greater variety of views than the UK media.

 

Given all that I think that this is just the start. In the future sites like the relentlessly anti-immigrant and anti-Islam Breitbart will certainly be closed down (or try to be closed down). After that maybe even sites like Spiked or Guido Fawkes.

 

We'll see. But to just think that this sanction is just being applied against one group in one country is wrong, and the idea that it will stop there is equally wrong.

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Try this one, for starters.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/dec/19/mps-press-social-media-firms-over-failure-to-take-down-hate-speech

 

There is co-ordinated pressure in the western world to control social media.

 

In America.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/dec/19/mps-press-social-media-firms-over-failure-to-take-down-hate-speech

 

In Sweden.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/google-under-fire-for-anti-semitic-search-results-in-sweden/

 

In Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/30/germany-approves-plans-to-fine-social-media-firms-up-to-50m

 

Look, there is literally tons of this stuff happening. It is a battle for influence.

Mainstream politicians and the mainstream media both do not have the control and the influence that they used to have. Politicians especially want that control and influence back. This means trying to control what's available on line on Facebook, on Youtube and on Twitter.

 

My kids (late twenties and thirty) rarely buy a newspaper and never watch TV news, the traditional sources of how people are influenced. They get their news from the web. Which up to press is allowing a far greater variety of views than the UK media.

 

Given all that I think that this is just the start. In the future sites like the relentlessly anti-immigrant and anti-Islam Breitbart will certainly be closed down (or try to be closed down). After that maybe even sites like Spiked or Guido Fawkes.

 

We'll see. But to just think that this sanction is just being applied against one group in one country is wrong, and the idea that it will stop there is equally wrong.

 

Take off the tin helmet, this isnt about social media control, its about a group of hateful individuals who have spent the last few years steadily growing in influence peddling hate (race hate) they are EXACTLY the same as the islamic extremists, who have been banned, locked up, "censored" as much as we can for years.

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