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Yesterday, 15:25   #5981
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This 'Labour' movement under comrade Corbyn are dangerous.
They need to be kept out of government.
Just been watching their conference - waving Palestine flags at every opportunity. If only they could wave the Union flag with such passion.
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Yesterday, 15:57   #5982
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Speaking as one of the few I'd like to know what if anything a Labour government could do for me ? I receive disability benefits now having to retire from the NHS due to ill health some years ago. I've never had a well paid job but my wife and I bought up two kids and managed to have a decent life. It wasn't always easy but on the whole not to bad. But what I've never been is bothered about is other people's wealth so long has they pay their taxes. Throughout history rich & poor have existed side by side even in communist countries. I've found my lifestyle doesn't change a lot under whoever is in power.
That's a very good honest post. What has changed over the years is the price of houses and the amount hard working people have to pay in rent compared to their income. In the past nearly everyone working hard could afford to buy their own home, but sadly the way things are today, it's not possible for every hard honest working person to own their own home. None of the political parties are likely to make it any easier for people who haven't got well paid jobs to own their own homes.
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Yesterday, 16:12   #5983
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Rightmove currently has 25 pages of properties in Sheffield for 100 000, or less. That's almost 600 properties.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...ludeSSTC=false

There is plenty of affordable property out there.
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Yesterday, 16:47   #5984
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There's some for even less. 48,000 for a 2 bedroom terrace:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...-67302328.html

But sadly people don't want to start on the bottom rung of the property ladder anymore, they want to start half way up.

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Just been watching their conference - waving Palestine flags at every opportunity.
Or wearing "I Love Jeremy" T shirts, or carrying "Love Corbyn" bags. And people say its not a cult!
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On one of the News channels they interviewed Labour people outside of the conference, who were not happy that there should be any remain option, if there was another referendum.
That must have been one of the 14% who support Brexit. The other 86% of delegates want all options on any ballot paper!

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Labour getting itself into a mess with their Brexit stance again
It's called democracy and having a diverse range of opinions.

You can't accuse Labour of being a Stalinist party with Momentum pulling the strings behind the scene then carp on about delegates putting forward a whole range of different opinions.
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I cannot vote Labour since they have done nothing for me or will do anything for me in the future.

At least the Tory governement has secured my job for the next 30 years.
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Yesterday, 17:12   #5987
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That must have been one of the 14% who support Brexit. The other 86% of delegates want all options on any ballot paper!
You're deluded if you think only 14% of Labour voters support Brexit. The actual delegates only make up a small fraction of Labour voters. You're addicted to quoting statistics.
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Any comment on the police Protection issue at the conference.?.
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You're addicted to quoting statistics.
Shocker isn't it?

Nothing worse for someone talking nonsense, than when someone along comes along and ruins it all with facts!
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Yesterday, 17:26   #5990
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You're deluded if you think only 14% of Labour voters support Brexit. The actual delegates only make up a small fraction of Labour voters. You're addicted to quoting statistics.
65% of them voted remain in the referendum....
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Yesterday, 17:56   #5991
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This 'Labour' movement under comrade Corbyn are dangerous.
They need to be kept out of government.
Just been watching their conference - waving Palestine flags at every opportunity. If only they could wave the Union flag with such passion.
They wave the same flag out side Sheffield Town Hall it does not take much imagination to see where the Anti Semitism comes from in Labour ranks .
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They wave the same flag out side Sheffield Town Hall it does not take much imagination to see where the Anti Semitism comes from in Labour ranks .
This is why Comerade Corbyn is such a dangerous man. Imagine how some these people would behave with Corbyn at No.10 ?

Labour hate Israel. Love Palestine - always have.
This Labour Conference has brought it home to me how 'far' Left they are (or have become) under Corbyn.
I cant believe that in the past I have voted for Labour.
Never again.
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Since you are not prepared to debate thats fine. I really do need to make more use of the ignore list..
Its not the first time you have said that.

I work in the public sector, and people can and do take paid leave for stress and other physical ailments, giving them another reason in which the "victims do not have to provide proof of their circumstances" is not a good idea.
So any change in the rules about suffering violence by another party will have no effect, unless it's for the reason of moving house.
How many women move house because of domestic violence?

Victims do not have to provide proof of their circumstances, that is how it will work in New Zealand, when their law comes into effect next year.

If anyone was going to study workers rights, I would very surprised if this issue was raised.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...eave-jan-logie
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Yesterday, 22:18   #5994
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This 'Labour' movement under comrade Corbyn are dangerous.
They need to be kept out of government.
Just been watching their conference - waving Palestine flags at every opportunity. If only they could wave the Union flag with such passion.
Well of course, the Palestine flag wavers are heavily featured in news broadcasts, 'Corbyn is an anti- semite, didn't you know?' Same as those Hasidic Jews who were actually supporting Jeremy Corbyn, were made to look like they were protesting against him. You cam make anything look like anything with a bit of judicious editing and muting of the sound at the crucial moment.

After all, let's not listen to what the Delegates have to say on important issues, let's focus instead on a handful of anti-Israel people and see if we can rouse the anti-semite issue yet again...

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I cannot vote Labour since they have done nothing for me or will do anything for me in the future.

At least the Tory governement has secured my job for the next 30 years.
Good job you were not a miner or a Sheffield steelworker then...

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Yesterday, 23:40   #5995
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Good job you were not a miner or a Sheffield steelworker then...
Yawn. The world of work has moved on. We are 2 entire generations on from people who had sod all effect of the decline of the steel and coal industries.

Those handful of morons who still blame "bloody Thatcher" for their failures need to take a good look at themselves

Technological advances and global industry has evolved and we either evolve with it or die.

Face facts. Most of these allegedly hard done "yoof" wouldn't be seen dead working in a coal mine or steelworks.

Compo and his vile disciples are gonna do nothing but drag us back to the past.
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Compo and his vile disciples are gonna do nothing but drag us back to the past.

If I had to choose, Id choose the 1970s over the 1940s any day.

So, its Corbyn for me, rather than Boris and Jacob.
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If moderators are going to delete posts, can they explain why they did it if the post the deleted doesn't break forum rules?
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Yawn. The world of work has moved on. We are 2 entire generations on from people who had sod all effect of the decline of the steel and coal industries.

Those handful of morons who still blame "bloody Thatcher" for their failures need to take a good look at themselves

Technological advances and global industry has evolved and we either evolve with it or die.

Face facts. Most of these allegedly hard done "yoof" wouldn't be seen dead working in a coal mine or steelworks.

Compo and his vile disciples are gonna do nothing but drag us back to the past.
Nevertheless, the UK now has to import coal, when we could have not only produced it ourselves, but be exporting it too.
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