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Hi guys,

 

I'm new to the history section but i've looking for some experts that can help me answer a few questions.

 

I only learn the basics in school (they never liked to go off the books) and whatever doc I've seen on TV.

 

I was wondering if someone could help me clear a few things up.

 

Also if any of my information is incorrect please correct me.

 

 

I thought a local site would be better then a google search and find US BS.

 

my biggest questions have always been US and Russia.

 

 

 

The US joined the WAR later (1941) and only once they got attracted, before they had been making money during.

 

Russia had been allied with the Germans till 1941 when Germany attracted them

 

Some questions ive been wondering about.

 

1. Why did Britain have a debt to the US which was only paid off recently ?

1a. Who else did US make money from in/for WW2, ever wonder if it was part of a plan ?

2. Why was the German dept written off ?

3. Did Italy and Japan have debts after ?

4. Why was the Russian debt so little ?

5. Why did the allied county need to pay Russia ?

6. Why was Germany split between US and Russia ?

6a. why was the berlin wall put up.

7. Why did US have so many rights after WW2 ? (Japan, Germany)

 

8. Why does the US seam so proud of what they did in WW2 when they joined later. most of the work was done by others and US still benefited the most?

somethings I never understood, dropping a nuke on Japan(did the area have any milady power) testing on the victims, control of Germany ext

 

(Somethings I dont think i could be proud of, at the time maybe but even now to the extent of bragging I dont think so.)

 

 

9. Why was Russia forgiven so easily and have so many rights during and after WW2 even after what they did ? They would have been the worst off in my option if it was not for others.

10. How did the US make so much money from World War 2?

 

11. Was it because of the power US and Russia gained in WW2, they still have a power struggle to this day.

 

These are the few off the top of my head which have been bugging me.

 

 

Thanks for your time.

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You seem to have too many answers to your own questions already. This will prevent from understanding the events and outcomes.

 

I strongly suggest that you start with a history of the Great War and in particular of the US perception of the events that led up to the war.

Follow this up with the American attitude to the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations.

How US foreign policy was influenced by The Depression, Japanese expansion, Communism, its view that Europe was again failing to sort its problems, Isolationism, dislike of Colonialism and its own electorate and media.

 

Sources:Biographies of Woodrow Wilson, FD Roosevelt and HS Truman whose attitudes encapsulates the American difficulties, aspiration, viewpoint, practicality and policy.

 

Churchill on getting the US into WWII.

 

"The World at War" from ITV.

 

"Letter from America" by Alistair Cooke, BBC.

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You seem to have too many answers to your own questions already. This will prevent from understanding the events and outcomes.

 

I strongly suggest that you start with a history of the Great War and in particular of the US perception of the events that led up to the war.

Follow this up with the American attitude to the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations.

How US foreign policy was influenced by The Depression, Japanese expansion, Communism, its view that Europe was again failing to sort its problems, Isolationism, dislike of Colonialism and its own electorate and media.

 

Sources:Biographies of Woodrow Wilson, FD Roosevelt and HS Truman whose attitudes encapsulates the American difficulties, aspiration, viewpoint, practicality and policy.

 

Churchill on getting the US into WWII.

 

"The World at War" from ITV.

 

"Letter from America" by Alistair Cooke, BBC.

 

fascinating programme. iv"e watched it many times. keep your eye on the history channel freeview 19. they keep repeating it. having said that they have just finished a repeat. there is about 20 episodes, well worth watching.

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You seem to have too many answers to your own questions already. This will prevent from understanding the events and outcomes.

 

I strongly suggest that you start with a history of the Great War and in particular of the US perception of the events that led up to the war.

Follow this up with the American attitude to the Treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations.

How US foreign policy was influenced by The Depression, Japanese expansion, Communism, its view that Europe was again failing to sort its problems, Isolationism, dislike of Colonialism and its own electorate and media.

 

Sources:Biographies of Woodrow Wilson, FD Roosevelt and HS Truman whose attitudes encapsulates the American difficulties, aspiration, viewpoint, practicality and policy.

 

Churchill on getting the US into WWII.

 

"The World at War" from ITV.

 

"Letter from America" by Alistair Cooke, BBC.

 

Hi Annie

My Bold

 

Do you mean the great war WW1 or the second world war WW11

 

 

if i could also make a comment on the usa with regard ww11, my information from ww11 veterans was that the us wanted to come into the war very early, the reason the did not was that the us had a lot of german immigrants and did not have a good enough excuse to fight in the war, Pearl Harbour gave them that excuse. They did supply Briton with all they wanted to fight the war hence britons war debt.

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Hi Annie

My Bold

 

Do you mean the great war WW1 or the second world war WW11

 

 

if i could also make a comment on the usa with regard ww11, my information from ww11 veterans was that the us wanted to come into the war very early, the reason the did not was that the us had a lot of german immigrants and did not have a good enough excuse to fight in the war, Pearl Harbour gave them that excuse. They did supply Briton with all they wanted to fight the war hence britons war debt.

 

The Great War is the same as WWI

 

The US did not want to come into WWII in 1939. The popular majority wanted nothing to do with another European war. This is evidenced by speeches made by politicians who initially promoted neutrality. Following the Battle of Britain in August 1940(and promoted/manipulated by media, MI6, Churchill etc.) sympathy with the UK amongst the 'chattering' classes enabled Roosevelt to create routes of indirect military and financial aid.

It was indeed Pearl Harbor and the German declaration of war in support of its ally which made it easy for the American "Germany first" policy. The majority of the tens of millions of German speaking immigrants actively supported neutrality, a small minority actively supported Hitler and another small minority supported intervention by the US on our side.

One of Churchill's biggest contributions to our survival was his ability to gather all available resources from Hollywood actors and celebrities, family, oratory, persuasiveness and his manipulation of the media to enable Roosevelt to support the UK covertly then openly.

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if i may be

 

i heard this from the people who it affected in the 1950s, speeches are just a front, i am talking about first hand information not history books, also the great war was ww1.

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if i may be

 

i heard this from the people who it affected in the 1950s, speeches are just a front, i am talking about first hand information not history books, also the great war was ww1.

 

 

The opinions of people in the 1950s was greatly affected by the outcome of the war. History is written by the victors...etc.

 

Most of the conscripts who arrived in the UK would have been teenagers in 1939 and would no doubt have had the naivety of youth and that of world events for which isolationist America was then(?) famous for. By the time American servicemen arrived in the UK, it was the third year of the war in Europe and they would have been told why they were here.

 

It was not young servicemen that Roosevelt had to persuade it was the older voting generations who been part of the appalling events of the Great War and were desperate to avoid a re run.

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The opinions of people in the 1950s was greatly affected by the outcome of the war. History is written by the victors...etc.

 

Most of the conscripts who arrived in the UK would have been teenagers in 1939 and would no doubt have had the naivety of youth and that of world events for which isolationist America was then(?) famous for. By the time American servicemen arrived in the UK, it was the third year of the war in Europe and they would have been told why they were here.

 

It was not young servicemen that Roosevelt had to persuade it was the older voting generations who been part of the appalling events of the Great War and were desperate to avoid a re run.

 

i feel i must ask this, where do you get your information?

 

Also the vast majority of the ww11 veterans 90% plus said, hitler was right but went the wrong way about it. But that would be greeted with disbelief shock, horror, these days,

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The American attitude to both world wars was very much influenced by who Americans were, and how they came to be in America in the first place.

 

The majority of Americans were of European ancestry. The largest ethnic group being German followed by Irish, Italians,Poles,English etc.

 

Many of them - or their families - had originally left Europe to get away from persecution or lack of opportunity, or to make a new life, or a combination of reasons.

 

The problems of Europe tended to be brought about by disagreements between members of royal families ( all of whom were related to each other ) and invariably ended in the deaths, maiming and impoverishment of thousands and the enrichment of a few.

 

This obscene nonsense went on generation after generation, and most Americans had hoped to have left that all behind them.

 

Despite which they were eventually involved by their own politicians and persuaded to join the fray.

 

In WW2 they suffered 407,300 military deaths, the UK lost 383,700 ( including British colonies ) and the Russians estimated between 8 and 11 Million.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

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... the vast majority of the ww11 veterans 90% plus said, hitler was right but went the wrong way about it.

 

What was Hitler "right" about?

 

How did he go the "...wrong way about it."?

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Also the vast majority of the ww11 veterans 90% plus said, hitler was right but went the wrong way about it. But that would be greeted with disbelief shock, horror, these days,

 

It would have been greeted with as much disbelief among the WW2 veterans.

 

It was my parents' generation who fought in the war and I can honestly say that 100% of all those of their generation to whom I spoke over the intervening years have never vouchsafed that Hitler was right. I come from a military background so I have met many serving and ex service personnel.

 

Where does your figure of 90% come from?

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i feel i must ask this, where do you get your information?

 

Also the vast majority of the ww11 veterans 90% plus said, hitler was right but went the wrong way about it. But that would be greeted with disbelief shock, horror, these days,

 

I lived through, and remembered the war.

 

That was just a sick post war joke, that made some smile and others cringe!

 

There was no such feeling in Sheffield.

 

Hitler was hated, when we were encouraged by our government to hate! His effigy was burned in every neighborhhood on Guy Fawkes night.

 

During the 40s it was "Uncle Joe" Stalin who was loved by the working class, as an ally, to the exrent that as soon as the war was over they unceremoniously dumped Churchill for the Socialist State Model.

 

In our household both grandadads were union men who turned off the wireless as soon as Churchill came on. The "Daily Worker" was a popular newspaper in those post war years.

 

The poster below, Annie, has a realistic take on the situation!

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