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29-08-2017, 17:30   #41
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Did I see Neo Nazis marching in charlottesville? Did you? did anyone here?

Lets assuming a few idiots turned up with flags and got on the bandwagon of people protesting to protect a statue which is part of their heritage, then they are idiots, thickos.

Do you get a "hard on" (to quote you) every time you see a riot by black lives matter? Or whatabout a load of lefties jumping all over the world after the outcome of democratic elections that took place and didnt favour them? I bet you went down to town to protest about an election 4000miles away to make you feel somehow credible to a load of others that share the same views.

In any event this can go back and forth, to answer the topic the main thing is to define fascism first. I mean there's jingoism aswell, all sorts of isms.
They were doing Hitler's salutes although it was a still image so perhaps the line of people I saw were all stretching their arms at the same time.
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29-08-2017, 17:32   #42
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I use to be neo nazi but I'm alt right now.
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29-08-2017, 17:32   #43
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They were doing Hitler's salutes although it was a still image so perhaps the line of people I saw were all stretching their arms at the same time.
theres plenty on here with the exact same mentality as the fascists / nazis / white supremicists / very norty boys (please scribble out the ones that dont apply) and will do anything to argue white is black, the sky is purple rather than admit its wrong.
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29-08-2017, 17:35   #44
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I wouldn't. If you'd read and understood the first post, then you would probably realise that.
If you want to educate me on reading posts, then you might have realised I replied to a post by someone that specifically mentioned European far right extremism rather than your original post.

Nice of you to answer on his behalf though.
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29-08-2017, 17:41   #45
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I know I did.

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Not true. The majority were local residents, and besides, why are you busy trying to smear the antifa?

Let me guess, you admire what the neonazis and white supremacists freaks are up to.
Lol, its plain to see what Antifa truly are, and the truth about George Soros is just a matter of public record.

Its said that he funds some right wing groups as well. Its as if he's trying to start some kind of racial civil war.
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29-08-2017, 17:43   #46
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Lol, its plain to see what Antifa truly are, and the truth about George Soros is just a matter of public record.
Go on, be a love, tell us what you think about the neonazi marchers in Charlottesville.
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29-08-2017, 17:46   #47
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Go on, be a love, tell us what you think about the neonazi marchers in Charlottesville.
They were a mixed bunch. Of course they were some unsavoury types in amongst them but the for the most part they were just honest patriotic people. Not Neo Nazi's at all.
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29-08-2017, 17:50   #48
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There is no question that The Nazis were fascists, but my point is that they are different concepts: not all national socialists are fascists and not all fascists are national socialists.
read up on some of our most "celebrated" far right groups / parties, most if not ALL are both fascist and have nazi leanings

BNP for one, are classed as fascist, but started out as nazi inspired and even had combat 18 formed to protect them at meetings.

British union of fascists also changed to a more nazi influenced name later on.

The british movement came out of a national socialist group in the 60s and openly endorsed the nazis and also had links to john tyndall and the national front / BNP

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Neo-Nazism
Neo-Fascism
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tell me when to stop, the far right endorses BOTH nazism and fascism to varying levels and at certain times, i presume they see fascism as a bit more mainstream than nazism and easier for the general populace to swallow?
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29-08-2017, 17:52   #49
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They were a mixed bunch. Of course they were some unsavoury types in amongst them but the for the most part they were just honest patriotic people. Not Neo Nazi's at all.
Defending scummers, what a surprise.
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29-08-2017, 17:57   #50
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Are you aware that the Antifa group that were at Charlottseville are only sustained by money from George Soros, a man who freely admits he actively worked for the Nazi's in WW2 and isn't even sorry about it?
again wrong, unless you class a child being forced to hand bits of paper around for the jewish council (created by the nazis)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

but we all know people of a far right leaning like to use lies and half truths to perpetuate their warped views and opinions
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29-08-2017, 18:32   #51
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again wrong, unless you class a child being forced to hand bits of paper around for the jewish council (created by the nazis)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

but we all know people of a far right leaning like to use lies and half truths to perpetuate their warped views and opinions
Wrong about what? that George Soros worked for the Nazis in WW2?

Knock yourself out with these, treacle, https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...interview+1998

This guy PAYS losers to go and rampage on the streets in the name of protest. You need to wise up. Or is he paying you to post on here?

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Defending scummers, what a surprise.
Grown ups are talking, do go away.

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29-08-2017, 18:35   #52
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Fascism / Fascist
Racism / Racist
Nazi
Islamophobe

All words overused in recent years and basically mean nothing anymore.
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29-08-2017, 18:38   #53
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Wrong about what? that George Soros worked for the Nazis in WW2?

Knock yourself out with these, treacle, https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...interview+1998

This guy PAYS losers to go and rampage on the streets in the name of protest. You need to wise up.
you want me to take random youtube videos made by people who have an obvious far right leaning as proof?

ive just read his life story, id much rather believe that ta

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Fascism / Fascist
Racism / Racist
Nazi
Islamophobe

All words overused in recent years and basically mean nothing anymore.
youve been looking in the mirror again
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29-08-2017, 18:38   #54
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The OP might as well have titled this thread as 'On the rise of Communism' and we would still have had the same discussion about nasty Fascists (the extreme right) and nasty anti-fascists (the extreme left). In truth there is no difference between them, they are all just nasty extremists who think they have the right to impose their ideology on everyone else.

If you forget the simplistic view of the political spectrum as a straight line with a left, a right and a centre and think of it as a clockface with the centre at 12 o'clock, you can move left or right around the circle but eventually you will get to 6 o'clock where you will find Hitler and Stalin accusing each other of being a mass-murdering megalomaniac. Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. They are both brutally repressive totalitarian political ideologies where the ruling elite and their sycophants have all the power, privilege and wealth, whilst the general population do as they are told, or else. Gestapo or KGB ?, Gulag or concentration camp ?, take your pick.

The so-called 'struggle' between Communism and Fascism is not one of 'good versus evil' , it is 'evil versus evil' , much like two criminal gangs fighting over power and territory.
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29-08-2017, 18:43   #55
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The OP might as well have titled this thread as 'On the rise of Communism' and we would still have had the same discussion about nasty Fascists (the extreme right) and nasty anti-fascists (the extreme left). In truth there is no difference between them, they are all just nasty extremists who think they have the right to impose their ideology on everyone else.

If you forget the simplistic view of the political spectrum as a straight line with a left, a right and a centre and think of it as a clockface with the centre at 12 o'clock, you can move left or right around the circle but eventually you will get to 6 o'clock where you will find Hitler and Stalin accusing each other of being a mass-murdering megalomaniac. Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. They are both brutally repressive totalitarian political ideologies where the ruling elite and their sycophants have all the power, privilege and wealth, whilst the general population do as they are told, or else. Gestapo or KGB ?, Gulag or concentration camp ?, take your pick.

The so-called 'struggle' between Communism and Fascism is not one of 'good versus evil' , it is 'evil versus evil' , much like two criminal gangs fighting over power and territory.
Rubbish. There is nothing extreme about being antifascist.
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29-08-2017, 18:45   #56
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you want me to take random youtube videos made by people who have an obvious far right leaning as proof?

ive just read his life story, id much rather believe that ta[COLOR="Silver"]
The videos are interviews he gave in which he talks openly about his past. You dismiss this and give us his Wikipedia article??

Mel seriously mate, wake up and smell the coffee.
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The videos are interviews he gave in which he talks openly about his past. You dismiss this and give us his Wikipedia article??

Mel seriously mate, wake up and smell the coffee.
why dont you just tell me a general gist so i dont have to watch 3 hours of crap just to find maybe one sentence?

another site i found says
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Allegedly, in 1944, 14-year-old George Soros went to work for the invading Nazis. It is said that until the end of the war in 1945, he worked with a government official, helping him confiscate property from the local Jewish population
which came from http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...crisis-and-why

it sort of follows what i said about as a kid being forced to work for the "jewish council" which was created by the nazis

this tells you what the jewish council is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenrat

and it does mention about confiscating valuables like i quoted above
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29-08-2017, 18:51   #58
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Rubbish. There is nothing extreme about being antifascist.
Many of these so called antifascists are actually fascists themselves. Closing down, not just blatant racism, but reasoned alternative points of view that differ from their own, from people such as Ben Shapiro or Nigel Farage for instance, especially with violence, is the very definition of what fascism is.
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Many of these so called antifascists are actually fascists themselves. Closing down, not just blatant racism, but reasoned alternative points of view that differ from their own, from people such as Ben Shapiro or Nigel Farage for instance, especially with violence, is the very definition of what fascism is.
isnt it funny, in your world everybodys bad, jews, anti fascists, but NOT the fascists themselves Oo
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29-08-2017, 19:03   #60
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There is little doubt that the UK developed a fascistic form of governance (albeit not at the hands of a dictator, but under Parliamentary scrutiny) during World War II. There is, equally, little doubt that this was justified by the circumstances of the day: the enduring penury of everything, daily bombing raids and the permanent threat of invasion called for a strong regimentation of British society, industry and resources, to prevent British society from falling into chaos, and then -later on- facilitate the management of the war effort...
Yes, and I agree that that was (at least for the most part) probably justified.
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