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27-08-2017, 17:02   #41
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For somebody who people claim predicted that she would die in a car crash she was a very casual about travelling at high speed without a seatbelt behind a drunk driver.
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27-08-2017, 17:16   #42
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We don't have long to wait until government has to decide whether the public can see government documents on the case. The 30 year rule has been reduced to nearer 20 years, and the records from 1997 are due to be made available to the public in 2019-20
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Prince Phillip hiding behind a pillar with a laser pen.

It's the only rational explanation.
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27-08-2017, 17:31   #44
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For somebody who people claim predicted that she would die in a car crash she was a very casual about travelling at high speed without a seatbelt behind a drunk driver.
If you believe that's what happened.
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27-08-2017, 17:37   #45
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We don't have long to wait until government has to decide whether the public can see government documents on the case. The 30 year rule has been reduced to nearer 20 years, and the records from 1997 are due to be made available to the public in 2019-20
I dont know what sort of things the public will expect.

The vast majority of any documents including this "note" has been trawled through time and time and and time again by the orginal investigations, the original inquest, various investigative journalists sticking their beak in and from money grabbing talking heads just like Mansfield and Burrell turning up on every chat show and news broadcasts to bolster their publicity and stir the pot with masses of totally unevidenced theories.

I never did and never will buy into this people's princess guff. yeah, she did lots of charity but so do other people. Yeah she was mother to the princes, but so what? They divorced and despite that her deluded fans think, that breakdown of relationship was a two way action.

She clearly had some mental health issues for which I am sorry, but she was in the main a sloaney tart who due to her HRH boost became a fantastic minipulator of the media to a point of near hysteria. She knew exactly how to play the press and exactly how to portray sweet and innocent.

Nobody deserves to have a fatal accident and I would not wish such a heinous thing.

HOWEVER, she brought the attention upon herself. She used it and abused such attention when it suited her and tried to avoid it when she was caught in less advantageous positions.

Drunk driver, no seatbelt, speeding vehicle, chaotic event worsened by a chase by papparazi.

equals.

TRAGIC. ACCIDENT.

All this public faux outrage, grief, hysteria and conspiracy over someone who they knew nothing about and cared not a jot for them in return.

With so many more important things going on that really should be given attention this whole things sickens me.

Mansfield has got exactly what he wanted. Stirring up opinion, name all over the papers more money in the bank account. Its a disgrace.

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27-08-2017, 18:00   #46
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I dont know what sort of things the public will expect.

The vast majority of any documents including this "note" has been trawled through time and time and and time again by the orginal investigations, the original inquest, various investigative journalists sticking their beak in and from money grabbing talking heads just like Mansfield and Burrell turning up on every chat show and news broadcasts to bolster their publicity and stir the pot with masses of totally unevidenced theories.

I never did and never will buy into this people's princess guff. yeah, she did lots of charity but so do other people. Yeah she was mother to the princes, but so what? They divorced and despite that her deluded fans think, that breakdown of relationship was a two way action.

She clearly had some mental health issues for which I am sorry, but she was in the main a sloaney tart who due to her HRH boost became a fantastic minipulator of the media to a point of near hysteria. She knew exactly how to play the press and exactly how to portray sweet and innocent.

Nobody deserves to have a fatal accident and I would not wish such a heinous thing.

HOWEVER, she brought the attention upon herself. She used it and abused such attention when it suited her and tried to avoid it when she was caught in less advantageous positions.

Drunk driver, no seatbelt, speeding vehicle, chaotic event worsened by a chase by papparazi.

equals.

TRAGIC. ACCIDENT.

All this public faux outrage, grief, hysteria and conspiracy over someone who they knew nothing about and cared not a jot for them in return.

With so many more important things going on that really should be given attention this whole things sickens me.

Mansfield has got exactly what he wanted. Stirring up opinion, name all over the papers more money in the bank account. Its a disgrace.
Are you arguing that internal government documents were transferred to the public domain as a one-off for this case, circumventing the 30 (now 20) year rule?
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27-08-2017, 18:37   #47
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I dont know what sort of things the public will expect.

The vast majority of any documents including this "note" has been trawled through time and time and and time again by the orginal investigations, the original inquest, various investigative journalists sticking their beak in and from money grabbing talking heads just like Mansfield and Burrell turning up on every chat show and news broadcasts to bolster their publicity and stir the pot with masses of totally unevidenced theories.

I never did and never will buy into this people's princess guff. yeah, she did lots of charity but so do other people. Yeah she was mother to the princes, but so what? They divorced and despite that her deluded fans think, that breakdown of relationship was a two way action.

She clearly had some mental health issues for which I am sorry, but she was in the main a sloaney tart who due to her HRH boost became a fantastic minipulator of the media to a point of near hysteria. She knew exactly how to play the press and exactly how to portray sweet and innocent.

Nobody deserves to have a fatal accident and I would not wish such a heinous thing.

HOWEVER, she brought the attention upon herself. She used it and abused such attention when it suited her and tried to avoid it when she was caught in less advantageous positions.

Drunk driver, no seatbelt, speeding vehicle, chaotic event worsened by a chase by papparazi.

equals.

TRAGIC. ACCIDENT.

All this public faux outrage, grief, hysteria and conspiracy over someone who they knew nothing about and cared not a jot for them in return.

With so many more important things going on that really should be given attention this whole things sickens me.

Mansfield has got exactly what he wanted. Stirring up opinion, name all over the papers more money in the bank account. Its a disgrace.
I agree - said it at the time and still say it now - it was media driven.

The people's princess? How so exactly?

No one gave a monkeys about her whilst she was alive and she wouldn't have given most people a second thought either.

Then a tragic accident occurs and it's spun into the death of sleeping beauty - madness.
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27-08-2017, 19:00   #48
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I dont know what sort of things the public will expect.

The vast majority of any documents including this "note" has been trawled through time and time and and time again by the orginal investigations, the original inquest, various investigative journalists sticking their beak in and from money grabbing talking heads just like Mansfield and Burrell turning up on every chat show and news broadcasts to bolster their publicity and stir the pot with masses of totally unevidenced theories.

I never did and never will buy into this people's princess guff. yeah, she did lots of charity but so do other people. Yeah she was mother to the princes, but so what? They divorced and despite that her deluded fans think, that breakdown of relationship was a two way action.

She clearly had some mental health issues for which I am sorry, but she was in the main a sloaney tart who due to her HRH boost became a fantastic minipulator of the media to a point of near hysteria. She knew exactly how to play the press and exactly how to portray sweet and innocent.

Nobody deserves to have a fatal accident and I would not wish such a heinous thing.

HOWEVER, she brought the attention upon herself. She used it and abused such attention when it suited her and tried to avoid it when she was caught in less advantageous positions.

Drunk driver, no seatbelt, speeding vehicle, chaotic event worsened by a chase by papparazi.

equals.

TRAGIC. ACCIDENT.

All this public faux outrage, grief, hysteria and conspiracy over someone who they knew nothing about and cared not a jot for them in return.

With so many more important things going on that really should be given attention this whole things sickens me.

Mansfield has got exactly what he wanted. Stirring up opinion, name all over the papers more money in the bank account. Its a disgrace.
you have so eloquently put into words everything that I would have said , but you put it better

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Didn't he represent the 'joe bloggs' at Orgreave ?

I also seem to recall he was involved in the trial of the men charged after a march in rotherham - I didn't know they were rich and famous.

He has had a decent success rate when it comes to overturning convictions obtained by the state by whatever means - otherwise the Guildford/Birmingham/Cardiff 3/ wrongly convicted people might still be locked up.
the joe bloggs at orgreave were backed by a very wealthy union , with an axe to grind
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27-08-2017, 20:37   #49
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you have so eloquently put into words everything that I would have said , but you put it better

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the joe bloggs at orgreave were backed by a very wealthy union , with an axe to grind
What happened when it went to court? This countries most corrupt police force were proved to be dead bent once again.
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27-08-2017, 20:40   #50
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you have so eloquently put into words everything that I would have said , but you put it better

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the joe bloggs at orgreave were backed by a very wealthy union , with an axe to grind
Not just another cover up then http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/...-off-insurance
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27-08-2017, 20:49   #51
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Just a thought , but this so called letter where she predicts her death in a car crash , is there any evidence that it exists ? has anyone seen it other than her solicitors ?

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What happened when it went to court? This countries most corrupt police force were proved to be dead bent once again.
Why are you here ? I thought you had no opinion about this thread
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27-08-2017, 20:51   #52
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I agree - said it at the time and still say it now - it was media driven.

The people's princess? How so exactly?

No one gave a monkeys about her whilst she was alive and she wouldn't have given most people a second thought either.

Then a tragic accident occurs and it's spun into the death of sleeping beauty - madness.
I think your assessment of her life and public opinion of her is so monumentally wrong it's comical.

I wasn't a fan myself but I am a big believer in transparency, fairness and truth.
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27-08-2017, 21:00   #53
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Just a thought , but this so called letter where she predicts her death in a car crash , is there any evidence that it exists ? has anyone seen it other than her solicitors ?

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Why are you here ? I thought you had no opinion about this thread
I've got as much right as you have to be here and my thoughts have changed.
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27-08-2017, 21:06   #54
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I've got as much right as you have to be here and my thoughts have changed.
No problem . Would you like to share your thoughts ?
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No problem . Would you like to share your thoughts ?
I have in post 49.

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After seeing that she was buried in a lead lined coffin it means that Prince Phillip killed her by putting Polonium into her drinks at the Ritz.

It's the only rational explanation.
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27-08-2017, 21:40   #57
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I think your assessment of her life and public opinion of her is so monumentally wrong it's comical.

I wasn't a fan myself but I am a big believer in transparency, fairness and truth.
How's that? I'm genuinely interested in why you think that's comical?
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27-08-2017, 21:47   #58
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I have in post 49.

ha ha ha , you cheeky monkey . Any thoughts on the Diana thread ?

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27-08-2017, 22:07   #59
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How's that? I'm genuinely interested in why you think that's comical?
Because she was practically the most famous person on the planet when she died, with a huge international army of admirers.

I would agree it was sickening fawning nonsense, but to say nobody cared about her is stupidity. It simply isn't true.
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27-08-2017, 22:15   #60
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Because she was practically the most famous person on the planet when she died, with a huge international army of admirers.

I would agree it was sickening fawning nonsense, but to say nobody cared about her is stupidity. It simply isn't true.
No - that's what you may have taken from the media attention which most likely informed your view.

How many people have you met that said they truly admired princess Diana before or since she died?
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