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19-08-2015, 13:13   #21
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So why did it take you 16 years?
I enjoyed smoking.
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19-08-2015, 13:18   #22
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Where does the liquid nicotine come from?
The internet I guess?
Probably a base liquid without flavourings, then you add in whatever you want.

I don't know what/if any regulation there is in the market??
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19-08-2015, 13:29   #23
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Clap the weight on tho. Food actually tastes like food.
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19-08-2015, 13:39   #24
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Clap the weight on tho. Food actually tastes like food.
It's easy....Just don't eat so much!....Just man up
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19-08-2015, 13:52   #25
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It's easy....Just don't eat so much!....Just man up
I agree. Also like a drink.

But wouldnt quit drinking by consuming equally as expensive but less alcoholic volume lager.

Just quit drinking.
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19-08-2015, 14:49   #26
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Where does the liquid nicotine come from?
Its a bit of a myth that all vaping fluids available contain nicotine as all vape manufacturers offer nicotine free liquid as well which seem to outsell thos with nicotine in. Some flavours dont contain nicotine at all any and in those that do the strength can vary a lot, anything from 0 mg per ml to 12 mg per ml.

Apparently one tobacco cigarette can contain up-to 30 mg, not sure how that equates to the liquid though.

From personal experience I think that although nicotine is addictive I think the habit of smoking is the bit that is hard to resist.

I wonder if Wales will now reconsider its ban on e-cigs.
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19-08-2015, 15:32   #27
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E cigs should be banned from all public places and patios. just like cigarettes.
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19-08-2015, 16:22   #28
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E cigs should be banned from all public places and patios. just like cigarettes.
Why is that?
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19-08-2015, 16:31   #29
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Why is that?
Won't be long before the government clamp down.
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19-08-2015, 16:35   #30
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Won't be long before the government clamp down.
But that's not an answer to the question.
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19-08-2015, 16:40   #31
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I didn't say it was smart, it's just the likely response if they find tax revenue falling from tobacco.

At least it's healthier though, I'd totally support it being prescribed if the cost of the prescription is less than the cost of treating all the smoking related illness. Simple cost benefit analysis.
Tobacco revenue is falling anyway due to more and more of us smokers buying knock off cigs and Bacca ,which is so easy to get hold of.

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And not man enough for the proper stuff
People smoking the proper stuff keeps your lot in a job, chasing us naughty " knock off " smokers for your tax and duty.
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19-08-2015, 17:42   #32
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But that's not an answer to the question.
him and his buddies at Johnson & Johnson don't like em, got to push the NICORETTE brand.
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19-08-2015, 19:51   #33
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The internet I guess?
Probably a base liquid without flavourings, then you add in whatever you want.

I don't know what/if any regulation there is in the market??
The majority comes from the fields of the big tobacco companies. I read somewhere that the vast majority of ecigs use crude tobacco extract and there are only 2 manufacturers which use pharmaceutical grade nicotine.
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20-08-2015, 00:08   #34
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The majority comes from the fields of the big tobacco companies. I read somewhere that the vast majority of ecigs use crude tobacco extract and there are only 2 manufacturers which use pharmaceutical grade nicotine.
Does tobacco contain pharmaceutical grade nicotine?
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20-08-2015, 01:02   #35
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With the smoking ban in cars coming soon, has anyone noticed that e-cigs are excluded from this ban ?
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20-08-2015, 01:29   #36
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With the smoking ban in cars coming soon, has anyone noticed that e-cigs are excluded from this ban ?
Id love to see them try and enforce that . Not a prayer.
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20-08-2015, 02:10   #37
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Id love to see them try and enforce that . Not a prayer.
Pretty successful with mobile phone use, seat belt use, alcohol use.

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With the smoking ban in cars coming soon, has anyone noticed that e-cigs are excluded from this ban ?
The jury is out regarding primary and secondary harm regarding e-juice. Unlike damning evidence of primary and secondary tobacco use.

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20-08-2015, 02:21   #38
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It's good that it's seen as 95% less harmful than cigarettes, don't agree with them being on prescription though, or at the very least prescribe just one battery, one atomiser, one fluid.

Smoking an ecig is far less expensive than normal cigs including the cheap dodgy ones. So if it works for the person (it's probably the closest a smoker will get to the real thing) they will still be saving money and leading a healthier life.
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20-08-2015, 08:18   #39
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The internet I guess?
Probably a base liquid without flavourings, then you add in whatever you want.

I don't know what/if any regulation there is in the market??
So that would be easiest enough to tax then wouldn't it. Making it at home would be no cheaper than buying it in a shop.

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It was hard to quit. After 16 years. One of my favourite achievements.
I recommend it.
You started smoking at about age 8?

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Tobacco revenue is falling anyway due to more and more of us smokers buying knock off cigs and Bacca ,which is so easy to get hold of.
It isn't though is it. This is just your personal law breaking fantasy.
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20-08-2015, 13:02   #40
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You started smoking at about age 8?[COLOR="Silver"]
dont be daft.
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