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27-08-2017, 23:38   #21
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Anyone driving a car at police, getting of said car, and then swinging a 4ft sword around while proclaiming that 'God' is great. Well that's pretty much as bat poo crazy as it gets.

I long for the day when religion is gone and people that need help can get it rather than being twisted by some twisted iman/videos on the internet.
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30-08-2017, 12:14   #22
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Anyone driving a car at police, getting of said car, and then swinging a 4ft sword around while proclaiming that 'God' is great. Well that's pretty much as bat poo crazy as it gets.

I long for the day when religion is gone and people that need help can get it rather than being twisted by some twisted iman/videos on the internet.
Imagine if all religions were banned, we could all get on together, couldn't we.

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30-08-2017, 12:44   #23
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Imagine if all religions were banned, we could all get on together, couldn't we.

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Nope
Humans still have greed, envy, ego, a will for power and land
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30-08-2017, 19:12   #24
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Nope
Humans still have greed, envy, ego, a will for power and land
So what else apart from religion tells people these things are wrong?

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All the same what? Spit it out.
What do you think I mean?
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30-08-2017, 21:25   #25
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What do you think I mean?
I don't know, that's why I asked.
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31-08-2017, 18:48   #26
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Can't remember but if you really want to know why not take a poll of everyone else on this forum and see what they think?
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31-08-2017, 19:00   #27
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So what else apart from religion tells people these things are wrong?
What do you think I mean?
erm i didnt mention religion, i meant people would still do nasty things to people because of those things, religion is just a man made tool to do things to others.

those are human traits
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01-09-2017, 11:07   #28
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erm i didnt mention religion, i meant people would still do nasty things to people because of those things, religion is just a man made tool to do things to others.

those are human traits
No you didn't mention religion but I'm just saying what I said anyway. That's one good thing religion does. I tells us what's good and what's bad. It also brings comfort to people who need it. And yes I agree, it can be used as a tool to justify hurting others. It isn't just one thing but many.
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01-09-2017, 13:33   #29
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What is it they actually want ? It does not bother me one iota what religion someone practices. But I do believe that no one has the right to force their beliefs on others.
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01-09-2017, 15:00   #30
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What is it they actually want ? It does not bother me one iota what religion someone practices. But I do believe that no one has the right to force their beliefs on others.
What the vast majority of Muslims want is to live in peace and do harm to no-one. What IS want is for everyone to do as they do.
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03-09-2017, 18:09   #31
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And if they are . . . ?

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He was driving a Prius so yes, the defence lawyers should get a satisfactory result with the insanity plea.
Put them in detention camps.
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03-09-2017, 18:33   #32
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Put them in detention camps.
Stupid people? On what grounds?
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03-09-2017, 19:24   #33
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Stupid people? On what grounds?
Because then it's the military's problem, not the NHS'.

That'll go someway to saving them 350million a week
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04-09-2017, 18:14   #34
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What the vast majority of Muslims want is to live in peace and do harm to no-one. What IS want is for everyone to do as they do.
a bit like these you mean https://www.cfr.org/interactives/sun...shia_infoguide
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04-09-2017, 18:22   #35
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I think so - a bloke from Luton waving a sword about outside is unlikely to be part of some sophisticated terrorist organisation - just a nutcase.
Maybe, maybe not. He says that he got lost in looking for a pub called the Windsor Castle. But then he pulled a sword and shouted the usual- so not very lost, it seems.
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03-01-2018, 15:32   #36
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The comment that struck me as worth thinking about is this:- When the next atrocity occurs what do you reckon will be the religion of the perpetrator(s)? Not all Muslims are bad obviously. Most are good people. But all the same...
The good things that people do will not make it to the media's attention, but any act of evil, mental nutcase will be publicised as it will sell news and draw peoples attention. These people should not be able to claim airtime by the media and do not belong to any religion. They are driving their own political agendas for their own benefits.

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Imagine if all religions were banned, we could all get on together, couldn't we.

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I think even if there was no religion, people will find something else to cause terror and drive their political agendas.

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03-01-2018, 15:48   #37
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The root cause of the problem is the way Islam maintains its power base which is by brainwashing entire races from birth with lurid, medieval religious nonsense then bullying and intimidating them to keep the faith throughout their lives. It's totally against our values of freedom of choice but they get away with it because everybody's scared of them. In any large population, the majority will be stable and sensible but there'll always be a minority with flawed personalities and when they're subjected to this brainwashing, they become terrorists. The majority of Muslims are sensible but terrorism will always be part of the Islamic package. The sensible thing would be to not allow any of them into western countries as they aren't born with 'moderate' or 'extremist' stamped on their foreheads and the moderate majority are a Trojan Horse for the extremists, but its too late now.
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03-01-2018, 15:53   #38
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The root cause of the problem is the way Islam maintains its power base which is by brainwashing entire races from birth with lurid, medieval religious nonsense then bullying and intimidating them to keep the faith throughout their lives. It's totally against our values of freedom of choice but they get away with it because everybody's scared of them. In any large population, the majority will be stable and sensible but there'll always be a minority with flawed personalities and when they're subjected to this brainwashing, they become terrorists. The majority of Muslims are sensible but terrorism will always be part of the Islamic package. The sensible thing would be to not allow any of them into western countries as they aren't born with 'moderate' or 'extremist' stamped on their foreheads and the moderate majority are a Trojan Horse for the extremists, but its too late now.
Bull! - a very small % of the people have that stupid ideology and they are the ones always in the lime light.
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03-01-2018, 17:27   #39
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The root cause of the problem is the way Islam maintains its power base which is by brainwashing entire races from birth with lurid, medieval religious nonsense then bullying and intimidating them to keep the faith throughout their lives. It's totally against our values of freedom of choice but they get away with it because everybody's scared of them. In any large population, the majority will be stable and sensible but there'll always be a minority with flawed personalities and when they're subjected to this brainwashing, they become terrorists. The majority of Muslims are sensible but terrorism will always be part of the Islamic package. The sensible thing would be to not allow any of them into western countries as they aren't born with 'moderate' or 'extremist' stamped on their foreheads and the moderate majority are a Trojan Horse for the extremists, but its too late now.
<removed>, ALL religions brainwash from birth its not an islam only thing, my missuses family are jeovhas witnesses and late last yer her grandad passed away, they didnt have a funeral but they had a rememberence in the kingdom hall, we went but it felt weird, 95% of the talks were religious, not much about the actual man. i felt so uncomfortable, especially when folks were talking to you about religion, trying to plant that seed. but we only went for him, for the grandma, and my missus and her mum (oh arent jeovhas) it was rammed to the gills and i expect possibly 80% were brainwashed into it from birth, especially all the kids and who are now teens and 20s, early 30s lads and lasses.
The only difference now with our "christian" country is nobody is a real christian anymore, were losing that religious aspect, most people who regularly attend church are the oldies who have gone since the 40s, 50s etc
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03-01-2018, 19:29   #40
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The root cause of the problem is the way Islam maintains its power base which is by brainwashing entire races from birth with lurid, medieval religious nonsense then bullying and intimidating them to keep the faith throughout their lives. It's totally against our values of freedom of choice but they get away with it because everybody's scared of them. In any large population, the majority will be stable and sensible but there'll always be a minority with flawed personalities and when they're subjected to this brainwashing, they become terrorists. The majority of Muslims are sensible but terrorism will always be part of the Islamic package. The sensible thing would be to not allow any of them into western countries as they aren't born with 'moderate' or 'extremist' stamped on their foreheads and the moderate majority are a Trojan Horse for the extremists, but its too late now.
This is irrational nonsense.

Do some more reading and research and this will hopefully help balance your view.
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