chakademus   10 #1 Posted August 12, 2018 Well done to the government, bad cyclists on road all too often goes unpunished https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45154708 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23 Â Â 337 #2 Posted August 12, 2018 Well done to the government, bad cyclists on road all too often goes unpunished https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45154708 Â What dangerous cycling problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H Â Â 11 #3 Posted August 12, 2018 What dangerous cycling problem? Â This one? Â http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/07/number-pedestrians-fatally-seriously-injured-cyclists-has-doubled/amp/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
petemcewan   27 #4 Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Robin-H, However, it should be noted that the data does not apportion blame for the accidents in question.  Maybe pedestrian awareness of cyclist schemes, run by the local authority, should be introduced.You know, teach the pedestrian that whilst they are gadding about in the vehicular environment to be aware of cyclists. The number of pedestrians -whilst on their mobile-stepping out in front of me while I'm on my bike is alarming. It is said in H/S circles that it takes two to cause an accident.  If cyclists wore one of these then it would be possible to record who is to blame.  https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/cyclevision-bike-helmet-has-built-cameras-front-and-rear.html Edited August 12, 2018 by petemcewan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Albert smith   11 #5 Posted August 12, 2018 Ive been knocked of my bike by a motorist numerous times in over sixty years of riding a bike ,the comments always been the same , "I din't see you" then drive off no come backs and only me with the injuries . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
petemcewan   27 #6 Posted August 12, 2018 Albert Smith.  I sympathise with you . When I cycled in London I was knocked off my bike numerous time by Black Cabs, negotiating Hyde Park Corner. I was knocked off my bike a number of times, by cars executing a left-hand turn at the junction of Essex Road and Balls Pond Road. I think I have been extremely lucky. The scariest occasion was on Essex Road. I was knocked off my bike and fell in front of a double-decker bus. I lay in the road and watched it coming towards me before it stopped. I thought I was a goner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23 Â Â 337 #7 Posted August 12, 2018 This one? Â http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/07/number-pedestrians-fatally-seriously-injured-cyclists-has-doubled/amp/ Â So the number of fatalities has increased to 3. What is a change in the law going to do to bring that statistically insignificant figure down? Â How many of these fatalities and injuries were the fault of the cyclist and how many caused by pedestrians wandering into the road whilst looking at their phone. Â I'm calling for new charge, death by dangerous telephony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchemist   37 #8 Posted August 12, 2018 So the number of fatalities has increased to 3. What is a change in the law going to do to bring that statistically insignificant figure down? How many of these fatalities and injuries were the fault of the cyclist and how many caused by pedestrians wandering into the road whilst looking at their phone.  I'm calling for new charge, death by dangerous telephony.  So its only 3 people, thats OK then. As a matter of interest, whats the number of deaths you reckon there should be before something is done, even if it seems to you, pointless and a waste of time? We talking 100, 1000, 10000? Would it be OK if one of your loved ones was number 4 or 5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chakademus   10 #9 Posted August 12, 2018 Robin-H,  Maybe pedestrian awareness of cyclist schemes, run by the local authority, should be introduced.You know, teach the pedestrian that whilst they are gadding about in the vehicular environment to be aware of cyclists. The number of pedestrians -whilst on their mobile-stepping out in front of me while I'm on my bike is alarming. It is said in H/S circles that it takes two to cause an accident.  If cyclists wore one of these then it would be possible to record who is to blame.  https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/cyclevision-bike-helmet-has-built-cameras-front-and-rear.html  Pedestrians have preference over cyclists. Highway code. It's up to you to be aware of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
davyboy   19 #10 Posted August 12, 2018 Do cycles have to have a means of warning ...hooter, bell etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #11 Posted August 12, 2018 Do cycles have to have a means of warning ...hooter, bell etc? It's irrelevant - almost all cyclists have a voice. Neither is much use if the person you're trying to alert is listening to headphones or in a car with some soundproofing (i.e. all of them). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #12 Posted August 12, 2018 So its only 3 people, thats OK then. As a matter of interest, whats the number of deaths you reckon there should be before something is done, even if it seems to you, pointless and a waste of time? We talking 100, 1000, 10000? Would it be OK if one of your loved ones was number 4 or 5?  That is a completely specious argument.  With limited resources, they need to be targetted. If 3,000% more cyclists are killed by motorists than pedestrians killed by cyclists it's obvious what is the greater problem and where most effort should be expended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...