Mr Bloke   1,445 #85 Posted July 16, 2018 One penguin will develop a slight limp. Hmmm...   ... it's not so much a limp as a case of bad acting . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tiberius   10 #86 Posted July 16, 2018 Something like this would be better http://mibinltd.com/?page_id=12  wouldn't take up so much space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #87 Posted July 16, 2018 Recycling paper is pointless, as it consumes way more energy than it saves. A better idea would have been: a. paper now in black bin; b. blue bin for plastic; and c. new brown bin for metal/glass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #88 Posted July 16, 2018 Recycling paper is pointless, as it consumes way more energy than it saves. A better idea would have been: a. paper now in black bin; b. blue bin for plastic; and c. new brown bin for metal/glass.  It's not just energy Jeffrey..what about saving other resources like trees? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #89 Posted July 16, 2018 It's not just energy Jeffrey..what about saving other resources like trees? But Sheffield paper recycling does not make sense on any rational basis. Sheffield trees (even the ones lopped by Amey!) aren't used at papermills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #90 Posted July 16, 2018 But Sheffield paper recycling does not make sense on any rational basis. Sheffield trees (even the ones lopped by Amey!) aren't used at papermills.  There's more to the world than Sheffield.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #91 Posted July 16, 2018 True. But this thread relates to just the bins in this part of the world, you'll find! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #92 Posted July 16, 2018 True. But this thread relates to just the bins in this part of the world, you'll find!  But the paper can be made up from resources from all over...you need to look further than the Peak District Jeff... Local actions can have wide reaching consequences.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #93 Posted July 16, 2018 Recycling paper is pointless  Not true Geoffrey.  From Wikipedia -  Energy consumption is reduced by recycling,[11] although there is debate concerning the actual energy savings realized. The Energy Information Administration claims a 40% reduction in energy when paper is recycled versus paper made with unrecycled pulp,[12] while the Bureau of International Recycling (BIR) claims a 64% reduction.[13] Some calculations show that recycling one ton of newspaper saves about 4,000 kWh (14 GJ) of electricity, although this may be too high (see comments below on unrecycled pulp). This is enough electricity to power a 3-bedroom European house for an entire year, or enough energy to heat and air-condition the average North American home for almost six months.[14] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike   10 #94 Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) It's not just energy Jeffrey..what about saving other resources like trees?  It does not matter that much as most of the paper produced is taken from sustainable tree sources that are grown specifically for paper.  ---------- Post added 16-07-2018 at 19:24 ----------  Not true Geoffrey.  From Wikipedia -  Energy consumption is reduced by recycling,[11] although there is debate concerning the actual energy savings realized. The Energy Information Administration claims a 40% reduction in energy when paper is recycled versus paper made with unrecycled pulp,[12] while the Bureau of International Recycling (BIR) claims a 64% reduction.[13] Some calculations show that recycling one ton of newspaper saves about 4,000 kWh (14 GJ) of electricity, although this may be too high (see comments below on unrecycled pulp). This is enough electricity to power a 3-bedroom European house for an entire year, or enough energy to heat and air-condition the average North American home for almost six months.[14]  But that is just about reduced energy consumption which gives a false picture. What also needs to be taken into account is the energy used in transportation and the pollution that causes. The cost of neutralising the effects caused by using caustic alkaline chemicals and the main problem.. that this can only be done a limited amount of times before it gets burnt anyway. Despite the fact that some recycling companies also get EU funds for recycling, at each stage the cost rises as profits are made. The first cost is it needs collecting, the second is it needs sorting, the third is it needs transporting to a central collection and then it costs to transports it to the paper processing plant. That is also similar to what happens to the other recycled waste.  Having a local incinerator that burns the paper should make it much more, efficient financially and energy wise. Edited July 16, 2018 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #95 Posted July 16, 2018 It does not matter that much as most of the paper produced is taken from sustainable tree sources that are grown specifically for paper..  It takes half as much water to produce paper from recycled pulp as it does from wood pulp,also there's a reduced amount of chemicals needed... it's not just the trees.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   86 #96 Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Sheffield 314 in a table of 350 councils according to WasteDataFlow for the period covering the financial year 2016/17. Sheffields Percentage of household waste sent for reuse, recycling or composting was 29.6%, the top council was East Riding of Yorkshire Council with 65.4% The data shows the total household waste recycling, composting and reuse rate for English local authorities from April 2016 to March 2017.  https://www.letsrecycle.com/councils/league-tables/2016-17-overall-performance/ Edited July 18, 2018 by iansheff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...