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13-02-2018, 18:26   #41
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oh dear, you’ve gone and dug yourself into a hole now

If the secret handshake is not really a secret, why won’t they show us ?

If their god is not really a secret, why won’t they tell us about him ?

After all, Freemasons keep telling us how open they are.

Feel free to include lots of ??? and !!! and in your reply
oh give over, why do they have to show you? do magicians tell you how tricks are done, does a businessman tell you his or her profit margin?? NO
my god is a secret and no i wont tell you who he is
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13-02-2018, 18:31   #42
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i'm sure most Masons are perfectly nice fellows.

It's when you get up to the top of professions (politicians, judges, bankers, police etc.) and you weild real power it starts to get suspect and ripe for corruption.
And your evidence for this is....?
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13-02-2018, 18:34   #43
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I am a very nice bloke. I am a member of a variety of various organisations, car clubs, bowls clubs, snooker league, play golf.... and am a freemason, and have been for 25 years.
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13-02-2018, 19:02   #44
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That demonstrates two things, you are prone to gross exageration and you haven’t got a clue what a ‘source’ is. The statement literally speaks of ‘rumours’ and only points at Duckenfield. Not quite half the officers involved one would imagine.
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13-02-2018, 19:12   #45
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oh dear, you’ve gone and dug yourself into a hole now

If the secret handshake is not really a secret, why won’t they show us ?

If their god is not really a secret, why won’t they tell us about him ?

After all, Freemasons keep telling us how open they are.

Feel free to include lots of ??? and !!! and in your reply
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13-02-2018, 19:52   #46
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That demonstrates two things, you are prone to gross exageration and you haven’t got a clue what a ‘source’ is. The statement literally speaks of ‘rumours’ and only points at Duckenfield. Not quite half the officers involved one would imagine.
David Duckenfield was Grand Master of the Dore Masonic Lodge. That's a fact. David Duckenfield admitted it in court. Brian Mole was also a Mason at the same lodge.

A police constable said under oath in court, that 'a substantial meeting' was held with other officers who were also suspected of being Masons'

There was no evidence of this meeting taking place. Well, there wouldn't be would there? It's a secret society. What motive could the officer have had for saying this under oath?

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13-02-2018, 20:14   #47
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No, he was not "Grand Master of Dore Masonic Lodge" there is no such thing.
He is a Past Master of just one of the dozen or so separate lodges that meet at Dore Masonic Hall.
If you are going to post facts Anna B, then please make sure you have even just an inkling of what you are spouting on about.
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13-02-2018, 20:34   #48
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No, he was not "Grand Master of Dore Masonic Lodge" there is no such thing.
He is a Past Master of just one of the dozen or so separate lodges that meet at Dore Masonic Hall.
If you are going to post facts Anna B, then please make sure you have even just an inkling of what you are spouting on about.
well said Smithy266
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13-02-2018, 20:36   #49
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No, he was not "Grand Master of Dore Masonic Lodge" there is no such thing.
He is a Past Master of just one of the dozen or so separate lodges that meet at Dore Masonic Hall.
If you are going to post facts Anna B, then please make sure you have even just an inkling of what you are spouting on about.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...nic-conspiracy
Questioned by Michael Mansfield QC, representing 75 families whose relatives were killed at Hillsborough, Groome said he believed Duckenfield was “a grandmaster of a particularly influential lodge” – the Dore lodge in Sheffield.
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13-02-2018, 20:44   #50
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I only know of two chaps who are Freemasons. What they do inside their Lodge God only knows, but outside they are just two ordinary working class blokes.

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13-02-2018, 20:52   #51
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David Duckenfield was Grand Master of the Dore Masonic Lodge. That's a fact. David Duckenfield admitted it in court. Brian Mole was also a Mason at the same lodge.

A police constable said under oath in court, that 'a substantial meeting' was held with other officers who were also suspected of being Masons'

There was no evidence of this meeting taking place. Well, there wouldn't be would there? It's a secret society. What motive could the officer have had for saying this under oath?
You stated, quite unequivocally - HALF THE POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED AT HILLSBOROUGH WERE MASONS.

You are an exaggerating, baseless liar.

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Groome said he believed Duckenfield was “a grandmaster of a particularly influential lodge”
I believe all Sheffield United fans are responsible for the Hillsborough disaster. Doesn't make it true, does it?
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13-02-2018, 21:00   #52
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You stated, quite unequivocally - HALF THE POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED AT HILLSBOROUGH WERE MASONS.

You are an exaggerating, baseless liar.

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I believe all Sheffield United fans are responsible for the Hillsborough disaster. Doesn't make it true, does it?
What a bizarre thing to say, are you OK?
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13-02-2018, 21:06   #53
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I don't know what goes on at WI meetings and they won't let me join...

They must be a secret society planning world domination through misandry
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13-02-2018, 22:40   #54
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..Yawn....
The Freemason's lodge in parliament was set up by the Labour Party. I've been told that Jeremy is a Freemason and it would explain his rapid rise from a nobody to leader
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13-02-2018, 22:52   #55
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David Duckenfield was Grand Master of the Dore Masonic Lodge. That's a fact. David Duckenfield admitted it in court. Brian Mole was also a Mason at the same lodge.
Not that you will beleive me but I can tell you there is no such Lodge.

Theres more than one that meet there, and none of them are called Dore Masonic Lodge.
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13-02-2018, 22:53   #56
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The Freemason's lodge in parliament was set up by the Labour Party. I've been told that Jeremy is a Freemason and it would explain his rapid rise from a nobody to leader
People don't need to tell me what you are, I can make my own mind up.
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13-02-2018, 22:53   #57
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I don't know what goes on at WI meetings and they won't let me join...

They must be a secret society planning world domination through misandry
I've heard in involves rituals called "cooking" with things called "jam tarts".

Scarey indeed!
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13-02-2018, 23:48   #58
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Not that you will beleive me but I can tell you there is no such Lodge.

Theres more than one that meet there, and none of them are called Dore Masonic Lodge.
Pardon me, should I have said The Masonic Lodge at Dore. That makes all the difference does it?
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13-02-2018, 23:56   #59
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Pardon me, should I have said The Masonic Lodge at Dore. That makes all the difference does it?
You reaslly need to learn Google-fu and stop making these blunders.

All the lodges in Sheffield and area....

http://www.freemasonryinsheffield.com/lodges/
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14-02-2018, 01:23   #60
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Bleedin' 'eck there thousands of em'. and this is just in Sheffield.
* taken from the above link.

Craft Lodges
Britannia -Cathedral -Concordia -Ensor -Dury -Fellowship
Furnival -Hadassah -Hallamshire -Hillsborough -Ivanhoe
Lodge of Industry -Lodge of South Yorks. -Nevil-Talbot -Pathfinder -Royal Brunswick
Sheaf -St. Leonard’s -St. Phillip’s -Strafford
University -Waltheof -Welcome -Wentworth -White Rose of York

Royal Arch Chapters
Chapter of Loyalty -Chapter of Paradise -Fellowship -Hallamshire -Hillsborough
-Installed Principals -St. Audrey -St. Leonard’s -St. Philip’s -University
-Welcome -White Rose of York

Rose Croix Chapter
Talbot -Welcome -De Lovetot -Hallam

Red Cross of Constantine
White Rose -Royal Standard

Mark Master Masons
Britannia -Cleeves -Lascelles -Sincerity -Escafeld
-Vulcan

S.R.I.A.
Hallamshire College -Masonic Study Circle

Royal and Select Masters
Hallamshire College

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