Cyclone   10 #25 Posted September 11, 2018 Because before 2010 no-one was stabbed.  Strangely enough before 2010 a lot less people were stabbed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrRobot   10 #26 Posted September 11, 2018 If numbers of police have no bearing on crime perhaps we could get rid of them altogether.  It's been a problem since 1990's...and from 2011 to 2013 it reduced...Not enough resources with or without the 20,000 missing officers. You can't search every single person even if there was an extra 50,000 police officers. People will do bad things and always have done. You need to deal with the root cause of it to tackle the problem/s.  Adding more police will make you feel safer but won't stop knife crime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #27 Posted September 11, 2018 That was quick, would have expected a few weeks closed at least. License meetings are important, and can be arranged quick, if everythings agreed easily and quickly during it, they dont have an issue to keep it closed longer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
paula4sheff   10 #28 Posted September 11, 2018 It's been a problem since 1990's...and from 2011 to 2013 it reduced...Not enough resources with or without the 20,000 missing officers. You can't search every single person even if there was an extra 50,000 police officers. People will do bad things and always have done. You need to deal with the root cause of it to tackle the problem/s. Adding more police will make you feel safer but won't stop knife crime.  So what do you attribute the rise in knife crime to then, if the cuts in police funding have no bearing on the matter? Pure coincidence that they coincide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mickey finn   12 #29 Posted September 11, 2018 So what do you attribute the rise in knife crime to then, if the cuts in police funding have no bearing on the matter? Pure coincidence that they coincide?  Social media, increase in drug use, also the type of knife user has changed, gone are the days where it was almost all gang related, now your average kid might be carrying one, but to say that the cuts in police has no bearing is insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #30 Posted September 11, 2018 Social media, increase in drug use, also the type of knife user has changed, gone are the days where it was almost all gang related, now your average kid might be carrying one, but to say that the cuts in police has no bearing is insane.  You’re absolutely right.  It’s correct that other factors contribute to knife crime but saying reducing police has no impact is just daft.  For me local policing is what’s needed - not just responsive stuff - but proactive policing from local policemen/women based in a local police station. On the beat and amongst the community.  Which funnily enough we used to have before the police force was reduced and all the little cop shops got sold into the private sector. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
paula4sheff   10 #31 Posted September 11, 2018 Social media, increase in drug use, also the type of knife user has changed, gone are the days where it was almost all gang related, now your average kid might be carrying one, but to say that the cuts in police has no bearing is insane.  There are of course many factors....but it beggars belief that people here believe cuts to policing aren't one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mickey finn   12 #32 Posted September 11, 2018 So looking at some of the posts its obvious we all feel the need for more police, but, what would the effect of that be on knife crime, surely one of the best tools in the police arsenal is stop and search, more police would have no effect unless they were very pro active using stop and search. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #33 Posted September 11, 2018 So looking at some of the posts its obvious we all feel the need for more police, but, what would the effect of that be on knife crime, surely one of the best tools in the police arsenal is stop and search, more police would have no effect unless they were very pro active using stop and search. would you feel more uneasy carrying a knife and passing a copper who may stop you? or carrying one when there is no copper to walk past you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mickey finn   12 #34 Posted September 11, 2018 would you feel more uneasy carrying a knife and passing a copper who may stop you? or carrying one when there is no copper to walk past you?  Are you asking me if I want more stop and search ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #35 Posted September 11, 2018 [/b]Â My bold= Rightly so imo, perpetrators of nasty hate crimes should feel the fool force of the law..... Â Where do you draw the line ? One persons "hate crime" ,is another persons " speaking their mind" . So much is covered by this Hate Crime umbrella these days, you can end up with the plod on your back for something as innocent as criticizing someone from a so called "minority". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #36 Posted September 11, 2018 Are you asking me if I want more stop and search ? They can still stop you anytime anyway if they think youre up to no good, if bobbies are on the beat surely knife carriers would feel more uneasy than not having any bobbies on the beat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...