Calais jungle..

Human trafficking is BIG business in lawless parts of the world.

It's big business in the UK as well.

On the back of recent high profile cases of that horrible family that kept slaves in Lincolnshire to 'work' for them:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-40899839

As well as the huge problem of rape and trafficking of thousands of children and young people by grooming gangs all over UK, as highlighted by what happened in Rotherham, Rochdale and Newcastle.

And it's that kind of mindset that will mean this world will continue to have such huge problems in years to come, for our kids and their kids and so on. If the first question asked is "How much will this cost?" then our thinking needs to change before anything more serious can happen.

It's alright hiding behind a keyboard with a decent internet connection in a warm house, with running water, clean usable toilets and most likely a car outside to take you down the shops at a moments notice for just about anything you can buy for tea.

Do you not think for the sake of humanity we could have worse services, miss some of those luxuries and afford to make tens of thousands of people have a roof over their heads and feel safe for once in their lives...

 

Never mind what happened with Iraq etc. What I mean is something much bigger and longer term. Quick fixes have been tried, negotiating has been tried, throwing money at the problem has been tried. But as far as I'm aware no country has gone all in to take over a country and help them save themselves. - Not without some sort of discrimination anyway.

Ask people who depend on the current services if they fancy them getting worse? In my limited recent experience in dealing with NHS they are stretched to the point of breaking now and people are slipping through cracks in the service. And we've tried running countries - it doesn't work.

But, for the sake of argument let's take this fantasy a bit further. Our country, as a democracy, has decided to shoot itself in its economic face by leaving the EU. The rest of the world - bar the obvious nutters like trump - think we are mad. Now, as the economic fall out starts to bite, would you be happy for plane loads of EU beaurocrats to turn up and run the country for us? Of course not. Colonisation hundreds of years ago would be very much seen as invasion now - and rightly so. We don't always know best.

Now, as the economic fall out starts to bite, would you be happy for plane loads of EU beaurocrats to turn up and run the country for us?

Yes. They do their jobs very well, many of them are British, what they do was largely designed by the British civil service.

Yes. They do their jobs very well, many of them are British, what they do was largely designed by the British civil service.

Well by that point as we've left the eu they won't be British any more. They'll be French and German. They might make us speak French and German as it's easier for them. And they'll only go when we want them to go.

Straight bananas will be the least of our problems.

And besides, this country wouldn't have it. People who voted remain wouldn't have it and people who voted leave certainly wouldn't. People in our former colonies, or countries we don't think are doing very well wouldn't have it.

What we could do is make the multinationals who operate in third world countries do a far better job (I'm looking at you oil companies and nestle).