Sheffield Forum

Response policing for South Sheffield no longer from Moss Way!!

Home > Sheffield > Sheffield News & Discussions

Reply To Topic
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
12-09-2017, 23:21   #1
SteelHouse
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Total Posts: 21
Found out today that the response policing facility that was based at Moss Way has all been moved down to Attercliffe as from today... 12/9/17.
So if you live in the very southern side of the city, you wont be seeing any patrol cars round Mosborough, Frechville etc etc.
The building at Moss Way has slowly been emptied of operational cops, and I fear with this latest "rationalisation" or whatever the police spin people will call it, it won't be long before we see the entire building closed/mothballed, and then sold to make way for another cheapo supermarket!
SYP really do seem to have pulled this stroke across the city, Deepcar is covered by officers based in the City Centre would you believe!
Sheffield has lost Hammerton Road, as a response station, now Moss Way, it wont be long before Woodseats goes the same way I imagine, and the biggest thing is..once you close them down, sell the land, there's no way they are EVER going to open another one is there!!
  Reply With Quote
13-09-2017, 00:20   #2
monkey104
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Total Posts: 3,160
But crime is falling according to government figures so why do we need so many police stations and police cars?
_______
Life is for living! A life having being lived is not turning up at the pearly gates in a pristine body, it's sliding in on your knees, body tattered, torn and worn out shouting " What a rush."
  Reply With Quote
13-09-2017, 10:17   #3
niallzi
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Location: Park Hill
Total Posts: 44
Old site of the Joseph Glover at Halfway would be an ideal location.
_______
You're everywhere and nowhere baby...
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 06:05   #4
Lex Luthor
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Total Posts: 889
There also used to be a police building on Chesterfield rd which has been taken over by the car dealership next door.

Maybe they need to sell buildings to raise revenue to pay Cliff Richard, and others? Will they have to pay compensation for Hillsborough and Rotherham victims eventually, or, will reparations come from central government funding?

Last edited by Lex Luthor; 14-09-2017 at 06:11.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 09:57   #5
alchresearch
Registered User
alchresearch's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: East Lancs.
Total Posts: 29,291
Send a message via Yahoo to alchresearch
They've been running down that location for years.
_______
Peugeot & Citroen Diagnostics Specialist. PM for details.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 10:48   #6
paula4sheff
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Total Posts: 132
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey104 View Post
But crime is falling according to government figures so why do we need so many police stations and police cars?
No it isn't-the abaolute opposite. Not aure you've been keeping up with the news. This was largely discussed when the figures were released a month ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40665733
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 11:40   #7
Grandad R
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Total Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
There also used to be a police building on Chesterfield rd which has been taken over by the car dealership next door.

Maybe they need to sell buildings to raise revenue to pay Cliff Richard, and others? Will they have to pay compensation for Hillsborough and Rotherham victims eventually, or, will reparations come from central government funding?
Had to make a witness statement at woodseats back in January. There were only two police in the station. As i was shown to the interview room i past a large room full to the ceiling with riot gear. There must have been several hundred jackets, helmets, sheilds ect. There were alot.
It made me think... ...if they are cutting back on responce sevices for the public, incidents may escalate by the time the police arrive, but if they do, at least they will have enough gear to beat all and sort it out later. Lol

---------- Post added 14-09-2017 at 11:52 ----------

Me again. Just one more thing... ...my council tax has risen each year and in a breakdown the contribution to the police commissioner has risen. Why then has this increase not been passed on to the bobbies? They've had no pay rise for years (so its been reported) whats happened to the extra we've been paying. Were is the revenue we pay to the council for the police commitioner from over 220,000 homes gone?
Does anyone know?

---------- Post added 14-09-2017 at 11:53 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
There also used to be a police building on Chesterfield rd which has been taken over by the car dealership next door.

Maybe they need to sell buildings to raise revenue to pay Cliff Richard, and others? Will they have to pay compensation for Hillsborough and Rotherham victims eventually, or, will reparations come from central government funding?
Had to make a witness statement at woodseats back in January. There were only two police in the station. As i was shown to the interview room i past a large room full to the ceiling with riot gear. There must have been several hundred jackets, helmets, sheilds ect. There were alot.
It made me think... ...if they are cutting back on responce sevices for the public, incidents may escalate by the time the police arrive, but if they do, at least they will have enough gear to beat all and sort it out later. Lol
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 11:56   #8
paula4sheff
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Total Posts: 132
The police commisioner role is a disgrace.

Since their completely needless and pointless introduction crime has risen at an incredible level. Axe them, and use the significant money that would generate on the actual police force. I can't see one reason whatsoever for the role of police commisoner to exist.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 12:35   #9
blackydog
Registered User
blackydog's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Total Posts: 893
Quote:
Originally Posted by niallzi View Post
Old site of the Joseph Glover at Halfway would be an ideal location.
The Mill! It will always be The Mill.
_______
UTB - I was there when the bouncing stopped.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 12:59   #10
Grandad R
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Total Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by paula4sheff View Post
The police commisioner role is a disgrace.

Since their completely needless and pointless introduction crime has risen at an incredible level. Axe them, and use the significant money that would generate on the actual police force. I can't see one reason whatsoever for the role of police commisoner to exist.
I agree with your comment paula.

At the moment the police are only given bonuses in relation to revenue collection ie fines, FPN and privet hire like football events which is for the intertidal officer, however these bonuses are more often than not a pooled team effort. Hindered by presure from other offices in the pool to generate revenue, leaves little time to perform the duties they sware too. Performance in crime is rewarded by advancement. But who has time for that when the presure is on?
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 13:34   #11
hewontscore
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Total Posts: 91
Moss way was only fairly recently built at a cost of millions and hailed for how good it was, I think it's more of a prisoner holding point now or at least it has been lately.
The law and order problems at the other side of the city are draining resources and leaving the South side wide open.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 13:41   #12
monkey104
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Total Posts: 3,160
Quote:
Originally Posted by paula4sheff View Post
No it isn't-the abaolute opposite. Not aure you've been keeping up with the news. This was largely discussed when the figures were released a month ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40665733
Woooosh!...............

---------- Post added 14-09-2017 at 13:46 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by paula4sheff View Post
The police commisioner role is a disgrace.

Since their completely needless and pointless introduction crime has risen at an incredible level. Axe them, and use the significant money that would generate on the actual police force. I can't see one reason whatsoever for the role of police commisoner to exist.
I agree. I contacted the PC last year to ask why there was only 2 and sometimes only one patrol vehicle between 0300hrs and 0700hrs Saturday and Sunday morning.
I received a reply which only came after he had consulted with SYP officers.

I also asked him what was being done in regards the issue of off road bikers and he told me to speak to the local SNT inspector.

Waste of taxpayers money.
_______
Life is for living! A life having being lived is not turning up at the pearly gates in a pristine body, it's sliding in on your knees, body tattered, torn and worn out shouting " What a rush."
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 13:57   #13
paula4sheff
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Total Posts: 132
I feel a bit depressed by it all - our council tax goes up and up, we have no choice but to pay it, and it's spent on high wages for things that are clearly unacceptable. It's like being mugged- but there is no way to change things.

Police commisioners do little, get huge salaries - and crime rises. We pay their wages, and have to put up with the rise in crime. We hate it, but can do nothing but continue to pay our taxes. We have no choice.

It feels so angering and depressing. We're all powerless.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 16:08   #14
Cream Bun
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Total Posts: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandad R View Post
I agree with your comment paula.

At the moment the police are only given bonuses in relation to revenue collection ie fines, FPN and privet hire like football events which is for the intertidal officer, however these bonuses are more often than not a pooled team effort. Hindered by presure from other offices in the pool to generate revenue, leaves little time to perform the duties they sware too. Performance in crime is rewarded by advancement. But who has time for that when the presure is on?
What utter codswallop. What is the source of such outdated fairy tales?
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 17:35   #15
Grandad R
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Total Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cream Bun View Post
What utter codswallop. What is the source of such outdated fairy tales?
Ripply traffic police officer. I was told this 25/7/2013 Granted it was over 4 years ago. But hey you maybe right. should i not trust the word of a police office? lol

Last edited by Grandad R; 14-09-2017 at 17:38.
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 17:49   #16
Cream Bun
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Total Posts: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandad R View Post
Ripply traffic police officer. I was told this 25/7/2013 Granted it was over 4 years ago. But hey you maybe right. should i not trust the word of a police office? lol
Trust the word of THIS ONE!!
  Reply With Quote
14-09-2017, 18:03   #17
paula4sheff
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Total Posts: 132
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandad R View Post
Ripply traffic police officer. I was told this 25/7/2013 Granted it was over 4 years ago. But hey you maybe right. should i not trust the word of a police office? lol
I can think of a few police officers whose word I wouldn't trust. A few particular ones spring to mind in terms of recent news events.....
  Reply With Quote
15-09-2017, 09:55   #18
alchresearch
Registered User
alchresearch's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: East Lancs.
Total Posts: 29,291
Send a message via Yahoo to alchresearch
Quote:
Originally Posted by hewontscore View Post
Moss way was only fairly recently built at a cost of millions and hailed for how good it was, I think it's more of a prisoner holding point now or at least it has been lately.
The law and order problems at the other side of the city are draining resources and leaving the South side wide open.
Mothballed in 2013:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/...lled-1-5735535
_______
Peugeot & Citroen Diagnostics Specialist. PM for details.
  Reply With Quote
15-09-2017, 12:51   #19
niallzi
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Location: Park Hill
Total Posts: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackydog View Post
The Mill! It will always be The Mill.
I wish I could have visited
_______
You're everywhere and nowhere baby...
  Reply With Quote
15-09-2017, 12:55   #20
monkey104
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Total Posts: 3,160
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandad R View Post
Ripply traffic police officer. I was told this 25/7/2013 Granted it was over 4 years ago. But hey you maybe right. should i not trust the word of a police office? lol
I believe that this did happen up until about eight years ago.
However, it was staff officers over the rank of chief super, I believe, that received a bonus in relation to income generated from penalty tickets.
Quite rightly this was stopped as it was determined that the forces concerned could be using it to their advantage.
_______
Life is for living! A life having being lived is not turning up at the pearly gates in a pristine body, it's sliding in on your knees, body tattered, torn and worn out shouting " What a rush."
  Reply With Quote
Reply To Topic

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:56.
POSTS ON THIS FORUM ARE NOT ACTIVELY MONITORED
Click "Report Post" under any post which may breach our terms of use.
©2002-2017 Sheffield Forum | Powered by vBulletin ©2017

Nimbus Server